Bad ideas in war

[Andy_Ross]

No, they were swapped for a bade in Bermuda and Newfoundland.

They were crewed by the Royal Navy.
It was in 1940 before the US was at war.

We just covered this

 

[kookbreaker]

The occupation was never considered practical, too deep in "Indian Country" for the IJN. They hail mary'd the invasion on the basis of "let's see what happens." (I base that on reading I did while doing my Master's at Purdue. Fairly certain the pertinent tomes are still on the shelves there, not having moved since they were reshelved after that paper was done.)

They certainly had brought the troops to try it.

Thing is many 'alternative historians' have assumed that if Japan had defeated the US Fleet than the occupation was a fait accompli. In reality any such invasion would have faced an almost impossible challenge where limited approach areas and inadequate landing craft would mean Japanese "marines" would have to wade through chest-high water for almost 1000 yards, and the air raids had done a very poor job of damaging any coastal defense equipment.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

They certainly had brought the troops to try it.

Thing is many 'alternative historians' have assumed that if Japan had defeated the US Fleet than the occupation was a fait accompli. In reality any such invasion would have faced an almost impossible challenge where limited approach areas and inadequate landing craft would mean Japanese "marines" would have to wade through chest-high water for almost 1000 yards, and the air raids had done a very poor job of damaging any coastal defense equipment.

Plus the combat-qual'd gooneys would have objected.

 

[Andy_Ross]

They certainly had brought the troops to try it.

Thing is many 'alternative historians' have assumed that if Japan had defeated the US Fleet than the occupation was a fait accompli. In reality any such invasion would have faced an almost impossible challenge where limited approach areas and inadequate landing craft would mean Japanese "marines" would have to wade through chest-high water for almost 1000 yards, and the air raids had done a very poor job of damaging any coastal defense equipment.

Drachinifel just covered some of this in his last Q&A

 

[Wudang]

Plus the combat-qual'd gooneys would have objected.

I remember reading someone's story of the Falklands conflict (SAS so possibly Andy McNab) saying how some officers were suggesting the SAS do a HALO drop onto South Georgia (IIRC). Fine to suggest such when you're not doing it.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hey, Gojira liked the last one he saw.

 

[jimbob]

The Ajax IFV (although I'm not sure how it is an IFV) as it seems to lack the "I" part and seems to be a very large scout vehicle I'd argue is counter to the lessons from Ukraine)

Meanwhile the Ares variant seems to lack the "F" part , with similar armament and crew to the Spartan APC, but 3 to 4 times as heavy.

I was prompted to think about this because of the below, which video popped up on my feed:


I'm not sure if I like or dislike his presentation style, but he does cram a lot of information (and memes) into a short time.

As an aside I see that the parent IFV was used for the basis of the M10 Booker, which, if it has similar issues, might explain why that was cancelled. If it didn't, maybe that would have been a better replacement for the Ajax, although I still think a CV90 with both infantry and a largish gun would have been a better concept. Given all the details in the above video virtually any western IFV would have been better.