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Merged Bitcoin - Part 3


mstr stock price is down 60% on the year, bitcoin is nearing it's average buy price at around $75k. investors starting to worry abou their ability to pay their debts. looking pretty grim for, well, the stock holders and bitcoin holders. saylor says he can raise as much as he wants whenever he wants. i agree that he'll be fine, he has made hundreds of millions of dollars off this already.
 

bitcoin money printer/central bank tether mints $1b and buys $1b worth of bitcoin. still no audit.
 



as both the bitcoin price and stock price continue to drop, thought michael saylor's past history of fraud that burst the dot com bubble might be of interest. could the same company under the same guy do the same thing twice?
That's the problem with deferred prosecution arrangements, it allows fraudsters to continue committing fraud. Saylor should have been banged up for a long time after 2000, and permanently disbarred from any sort of magement role, but he was free to recreate his same fraud just using bitcoin this time.
 
Hmm...

Where is our resident Bitcoin Booster?

Hopefully he's not among the horde of people that borrowed heavily to buy Bitcoin during the recent upswing.

I see that it's currently trading at US$93k down from the peak of US$124k on October 7.

There's a bit of talk about this having caused bankruptcies, because leverage loans get called when the purchased asset falls in price.
 
i hope he didn't lose any money

there's not many encouraging things happening with crypto lately.
 
Hmm...

Where is our resident Bitcoin Booster?
Who is that?

Hopefully he's not among the horde of people that borrowed heavily to buy Bitcoin during the recent upswing.
Has there been a bigger cohort of borrowers than in the past?

I see that it's currently trading at US$93k down from the peak of US$124k on October 7.
Bitcoin price goes up, bitcoin price goes down (didn't you know that)? The only thing that has been true in the past is that the long term average (over several years) has been upwards.

There's a bit of talk about this having caused bankruptcies, because leverage loans get called when the purchased asset falls in price.
I have always said not to gamble with money you can't afford to lose. Borrowing heavily to buy bitcoin in the hopes of a short term profit is particularly foolhardy.
 

terra founder do kwon sentenced to 15 years

so it's a little comforting you can still get in trouble for some of this stuff.

here's a website discussing how a stablecoin can fail and common causes for their failure.

 
definitely on the table. not sure what the going rate of a presidential pardon is and if do kwon hid enough money to afford it
 

terra founder do kwon sentenced to 15 years

so it's a little comforting you can still get in trouble for some of this stuff.

here's a website discussing how a stablecoin can fail and common causes for their failure.

They forgot what is by far the biggest risk of "stable"coins, the fact that their only real backing is the goodwill of users to not start a run on them. These things are pure unsecured obligations and should be treated accordingly.
 
They forgot what is by far the biggest risk of "stable"coins, the fact that their only real backing is the goodwill of users to not start a run on them. These things are pure unsecured obligations and should be treated accordingly.

  • Reserve fraud remains the #1 cause of stablecoin failure: Tether operated with only 27.6% backing during 2016-2018
it's like right at the top of the page
 
it's like right at the top of the page
I don't think that is what Gulliver was talking about.

They forgot what is by far the biggest risk of "stable"coins, the fact that their only real backing is the goodwill of users to not start a run on them. These things are pure unsecured obligations and should be treated accordingly.
Well no. When we say a stable coin fails, we mean "nobody wants to buy them". The article is talking about the reasons why the users start runs on stable coins. People don't just wake up one morning and (try to) sell all their coins on masse. It takes a trigger for them to do that. The article was talking about the most common triggers.
 

coinbase, one of the world's largest crypto exchanges, getting heavy into gambling by calling it a predicition market. gambling/prediction market companies, like draft kings and fan duel, following suit by starting to offer crypto exchange services.

this is obviously getting completely out of control. basically gambling apps like kalshi or polymarket claim that prediction markets aren't gambling, bets are trades, so it's a legal loophole they exploit. now the gambling apps want in, and finance apps want in, and so of course crypto wants all in on it.
 
it's like right at the top of the page
That's just fractional reserve banking (if true). I'm talking more that all these "stable" coins act more like the South Sea Company or Ponzi's stamp scheme, ie that new entrans' money is used to prop up early entrants' equity value and there is nothing underlying the wholebusiness.
 
That's just fractional reserve banking (if true). I'm talking more that all these "stable" coins act more like the South Sea Company or Ponzi's stamp scheme, ie that new entrans' money is used to prop up early entrants' equity value and there is nothing underlying the wholebusiness.

the whole concept is they have a 1 for 1 backing so it’s guaranteed to be pegged to the currency it represents. it’s just plain lying about how much money they have.

i agree that other crypto is basically a ponzi scheme. i use the term interchangeably but not looking forward to the semantic debate that starts.
 
i agree that other crypto is basically a ponzi scheme. i use the term interchangeably but not looking forward to the semantic debate that starts.
No matter how many posts about failed crypto enterprises or shonky crypto-based schemes you post, you will never prove that cryptos themselves are anything other than digital assets. Only your choir believes otherwise.
 

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