Mass shooting at Bondi Beach

[arthwollipot]

I am perfectly aware of the fact that everything and anything will be used to excuse, justify, banalise or minimise antisemitic atrocities, using the despicable practice of hiding them by more or less openly calling them justified retaliation.

Acknowledging the inevitability of retaliation is not the same as excusing it.

 

[Klimax]

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As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

How are Australian citizens responsible for another government half world away?

 

[ZeeGerman]

Acknowledging the inevitability of retaliation antisemitic atrocities is not the same as excusing it.

FTFY

 

[Orphia Nay]

Because it's tricky hotlinking to the Guardian liveblog, here's a screenshot:

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6 licensed firearms? I'm shocked that was allowed.

 

[lionking]

Acknowledging the inevitability of retaliation is not the same as excusing it.

Retaliation? Are you serious? What has any single one of those victims to do with Israel’s retaliation (here is a correct use of that word) to Hamas’ murderous attack?

 

[arthwollipot]

6 licensed firearms? I'm shocked that was allowed.

Perfectly legal. There is a suggestion that the son was known to the intelligence agencies, but they had nothing on the dad.

 

[lionking]

Other than being Jews, that is?

That’s enough for some people.

 

[Steve]

Acknowledging the inevitability of retaliation is not the same as excusing it.

What did those shot at Bondi beach do that made retaliation inevitable?

 

[Ziggurat]

Israel isn't the victim here.
The people who were attacked are.

True. And yet, Israel is getting blamed for the attack anyways, even though Israel has nothing to do with it. Why?

Because the attack was motivated by antisemitism, and the hostility to Israel expressed here is motivated by antisemitism.

This is what "globalize the intifada" looks like.

 

[Ziggurat]

What did those shot at Bondi beach do that made retaliation inevitable?

Be Jews.

 

[Ziggurat]

I made two valid points, as borne out by the evidence above. More antisemitic attacks were an obvious result and time has proven that to be true.

The spike in signs of Jew hatred started immediately after the Oct. 7 attack. It was a response to the attack against Israel, NOT to Israel's retaliation. That's a pretense, not the reason. The reason was and is antisemitic hatred.

 

[trustbutverify]

What did those shot at Bondi beach do that made retaliation inevitable?

Not believing in Jesus, apparently.

 

[Ziggurat]

Not believing in Jesus, apparently.

Wait... you think the shooter was a Christian? That's a bold claim.

 

[zooterkin]

Wait... you think the shooter was a Christian? That's a bold claim.

Technically, Muslims also believe in Jesus, though the things they believe about him are different from those Christians believe.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

One distasteful event associated with such a tragedy is the glee shown by the American gun community whenever a mass shooting occurs in another country. You can see this playing out in the comments section of the Fox News report -- but I recommend you don't.

Yeah, that's why America has no shootings and we hear of them all the time in Australia .

 

[arthwollipot]

Retaliation? Are you serious? What has any single one of those victims to do with Israel’s retaliation (here is a correct use of that word) to Hamas’ murderous attack?

What do you think was the likely reason for the antisemitic atrocity?

 

[lionking]

What do you think was the likely reason for the antisemitic atrocity?

Perhaps you should look up the meaning of retaliation.

You are victim blaming by using that word.

 

[arthwollipot]

Perhaps you should look up the meaning of retaliation.

You are victim blaming by using that word.

I repeat, what do you think was the likely reason for the antisemitic atrocity?

 

[lionking]

For those who need it pointed out, hatred of Jews was the reason for the attack. I didn’t think it needed to be explained.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

"Oh where are the Muslims condemning this heinous attack"?

Here they are:

Statement Condemning the Bondi Shootings and Expressing Solidarity with the Victims and all Affected Communities » ANIC

The Australian National Imams Council (ANIC), the Council of Imams NSW and the Australian Muslim community unequivocally condemn the horrific shootings in Bondi. These acts of violence and crimes have no place in our society. Those responsible must be held fully accountable and face the full...

anic.org.au

Not to mention the Islamic Ahmed Al Ahmed who actually tackled one of the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ gunmen. It seems that a good counter to a bad guy with a gun is a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ hero without one.