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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

Aha. I think I found the original title was "Young Tight Teens: Back to School." So the content is fine, settings, costumes, scenes and all, but you can't say 'teen' or 'school' in the title apparantly.

I feel so enlightened.
 
Lithrael said:
Aha. I think I found the original title was "Young Tight Teens: Back to School." So the content is fine, settings, costumes, scenes and all, but you can't say 'teen' or 'school' in the title apparantly.

I feel so enlightened.
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I'm curious is it those words, or the combination of those words. Teens is a bit nebulous. Teens could mean 18 and 19. School could mean college. But the two together makes it more understandable that they're talking underage.
 
Yeah that's true.

The part I'm finding more surprising just in general is that it looks like if the UK internet is supposed to follow these rules, everyone's gonna have to take down the whole genre of um. the thing with the hands. Which, like, that's not my thing, but it's a perfectly cromulent kink. You basically HAVE to be really careful and really into it. Kind of weird to me that that's one of their no-no's. And I guess the p***-kink people will be pissed too.
 
acbytesla said:
I'm curious is it those words, or the combination of those words. Teens is a bit nebulous. Teens could mean 18 and 19. School could mean college. But the two together makes it more understandable that they're talking underage.
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My view is that they can't possibly be talking underage. Teens must mean 18 and 19, and school must be some sort of undergrad finishing school for sexy college freshers.

They can't be talking about the other thing, because that would be illegal.
 
theprestige said:
My view is that they can't possibly be talking underage. Teens must mean 18 and 19, and school must be some sort of undergrad finishing school for sexy college freshers.

They can't be talking about the other thing, because that would be illegal.
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Good point. The only pornography I'm aware of that is out there on commercial web sites is legal. I know that porn producers are paranoid about not having underage actors. And they take every reasonable precaution they can at ensuring and documenting the age of their actors. Including requiring legal documents that verify ages. They will copy the documents and put the actors on video showing their IDs. You can look for underage pornography out there. But your chances at finding it are small.
 
arthwollipot said:
That's explicitly what it means on porn sites. As I documented upthread, any mention of the word "teen" on a porn site is appended with "18+".
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And here's the thing. As much as they might look underage to adults, they don't look underage to those that are underage. They are just more cognizant of year to year changes at that time of their life.
 
Here's the thing. There are physical changes that a person's body undergoes as they reach sexual maturity. You can tell a sexually immature body from a sexually mature body. These changes generally happen before a person's 18th birthday. There is no way a person over 18 could be mistaken for a sexually immature person when they take their clothes off, as they inevitably do in porn.

You could argue that they are sexually mature, but still under 18, but I remind you that's already extremely illegal and you will go to jail for a very long time for it.

When you watch "barely legal" porn you are looking at sexually mature bodies. You can say that it is creepy for 40 year old men to watch 18 year olds performing sex acts, but what you can't say is that it is illegal.
 
arthwollipot said:
Here's the thing. There are physical changes that a person's body undergoes as they reach sexual maturity. You can tell a sexually immature body from a sexually mature body. These changes generally happen before a person's 18th birthday. There is no way a person over 18 could be mistaken for a sexually immature person when they take their clothes off, as they inevitably do in porn.

You could argue that they are sexually mature, but still under 18, but I remind you that's already extremely illegal and you will go to jail for a very long time for it.

When you watch "barely legal" porn you are looking at sexually mature bodies. You can say that it is creepy for 40 year old men to watch 18 year olds performing sex acts, but what you can't say is that it is illegal.
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Are you denying that the UK has made such porn (actors that appear to be under 18) illegal? See #4.289 - the relevant section being:

(5)“Child”, subject to subsection (6), means a person under the age of 18.
(6)Where an image shows a person the image is to be treated as an image of a child if—
(a)the impression conveyed by the image is that the person shown is a child, or
(b)the predominant impression conveyed is that the person shown is a child despite the fact that some of the physical characteristics shown are not those of a child.

Again, under UK law you, @acbytesla and @Lithrael would be deemed sex offenders (assuming a continuance of consuming content you have described here whilst visiting the UK).

(I will be CIIW in my assumptions.)
 
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arthwollipot said:
I'm not saying anything whatsoever about the UK. I'm getting you back on track and sweeping away the irrelevancies.
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Back on track? Irrelevant? The OP asks about rape culture, which by definition includes sexual assault and abuse. The UK bans the material we have been discussing because it encourages and normalises sex offending with minors - so anyone defending its production and consumption is not only proving the OP, but is potentially a sex offender.

You bragged about impunity from (UK) prosecution and I agreed - but (and this is the important bit) you are only getting off via a loophole - which is that the BBFC hasn't actually certificated such content on the net (yet). As I have cited an number of times now (The Guardian (28th June 2025):

Officials at the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) guided her through short clips of extreme material to help her understand the nature of easily available harmful content. She remains disturbed by the material she saw – content designed to appear to be child sexual abuse, set in children’s bedrooms – roles played by young girls, who may be over 18 but are acting as children. “The titles are very problematic, things like: ‘Daddy’s going to come home and give his daughter a good seeing to’ or ‘Oops I’ve gone too far and now she’s dead’ or ‘Kidnap and kill a hooker.’” This content would be prohibited by the BBFC in the offline world, but is unregulated online.
 
arthwollipot said:
Yes. Your entire thesis at this point hinges on the performers looking like they are under 18. They don't.
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They do when they are deliberately chosen for looking young and are dressed, have props, speak and are placed in rooms associated with youth.

You swerved my question again. It does not matter what the consumer thinks looks young - if the BBFC deems it so, then legally it is. We know Bonnie Blue's classroom content is out.

You are proving the OP; you are trivialising content that normalises the abuse of children. Watched on a DVD in the UK will result in prosecution; trumpeting the fact that one gets away with doing so by watching on the net is cynical, reckless entitlement.
 
Poem said:
They do when they are deliberately chosen for looking young and are dressed, have props, speak and are placed in rooms associated with youth.
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No, they don't. They have fully adult bodies. The only people who could think they were sexually immature are people who have no idea of the changes a body goes through when they reach sexual maturity. Props, costumes, and sets cannot change that.
 
Want to know what the harms of legal porn are? - read the above. Legalise porn and normalise the sexual abuse of kids. Let's not be naive about what is going on with this content: adults are ORGASMING TO WHAT LOOKS LIKE SEX WITH A CHILD.

Good grief.
 
arthwollipot said:
No, they don't. They have fully adult bodies. The only people who could think they were sexually immature are people who have no idea of the changes a body goes through when they reach sexual maturity. Props, costumes, and sets cannot change that.
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Consumers of said content are without bias? No such person is going to admit the uncomfortable truth.
 
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