Cont: Musk, SpaceX and future of Tesla II

[acbytesla]

lol, "According to Tesla’s latest earnings call, executives said the company hit a quarter of a million miles with its fleet in Austin, and more than one million in the Bay Area. In July, Waymo announced 100 million total fully autonomous miles."

According to the latest Tesla propaganda you mean. Meanwhile Waymo is getting almost a half a million paid fares weekly.

You think those rides average under a quarter of a mile? Or do you think there is a human behind the wheel?

 

[gabeygoat]

I just know I'd feel safer in a waymo

 

[Darat]

This is what Optimus is against in the humanoid robot field:

 

[a_unique_person]

This is what Optimus is against in the humanoid robot field:

Forget Optimus. What about me?

 

[acbytesla]

I just know I'd feel safer in a waymo

I'm not an expert with either one. But it sure looks like Tesla is serving up a crap sandwich and calling it roast beef. Whereas Waymo is actually delivering on the Robotaxi business.

 

[JayUtah]

Musk explains Optimus.

 

[junkshop]

I, for one, welcome our new rob't overl'ds.

 

[arthwollipot]

Anyone who still believes that Elon Musk still has any grasp on reality should listen to at least the first 20min of this episode of the Know Rogan Experience, in which Marsh and Cecil break down Joe Rogan's recent interview with him.

#0044 - Elon Musk, Pt. 1

We break down the interview with Joe's October 2025 interview with Elon Musk. Main event Toolbox Clips used under fair use from JRE show #2404 Listen to our other s…

www.knowrogan.com

Elon explains his bat ◊◊◊◊ pants-on-head bonkers idea that charities in San Francisco are maintaining "drug zombie farms" by collaborating with liberal DAs so that they don't prosecute drug dealers. Because charities get millions of dollars from the government for every homeless person, and prosecuting the drug dealers would mean that all of the drug zombies would move to a different city.

Yes, he appears to actually believe this. At least, he asserts it with confidence. The man is insane. Later in the show Marsh opines that Musk is French aristocracy levels of out of touch with real people.

 

[Dabop]

Anyone who still believes that Elon Musk still has any grasp on reality should listen to at least the first 20min of this episode of the Know Rogan Experience, in which Marsh and Cecil break down Joe Rogan's recent interview with him.

#0044 - Elon Musk, Pt. 1

We break down the interview with Joe's October 2025 interview with Elon Musk. Main event Toolbox Clips used under fair use from JRE show #2404 Listen to our other s…

www.knowrogan.com

Elon explains his bat ◊◊◊◊ pants-on-head bonkers idea that charities in San Francisco are maintaining "drug zombie farms" by collaborating with liberal DAs so that they don't prosecute drug dealers. Because charities get millions of dollars from the government for every homeless person, and prosecuting the drug dealers would mean that all of the drug zombies would move to a different city.

Yes, he appears to actually believe this. At least, he asserts it with confidence. The man is insane. Later in the show Marsh opines that Musk is French aristocracy levels of out of touch with real people.

11.03 to 12.30 is the 'drug zombies' nonsense...

Later in the show Marsh opines that Musk is French aristocracy levels of out of touch with real people.

Can't argue with him about that....

 

[bruto]

I just know I'd feel safer in a waymo

As long as your kids aren't in that school bus.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Again, this really isn't true.

The EU is a free trade zone for all of the EU. The EU functions as a single customs union, meaning it has one common external tariff and trade policy, making it a significant global trading power. It is also a major player in the WTO, supporting multilateral trade rules, open markets, and sustainable development.

Tarrifs and protectionism is generally a disaster.

Yet any country outside the bloc find thatthe EU has lots of protectionist barriers. Just ask any UK based country.

Protectionism isn't just tarriffs.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Sorry but it does in general. Some people benefit more than others and a few people do lose out, but saying it's only the 1% has no basis in fact. It's just lazy cynical thinking.



The EU single market is absolutely core to the organisation. It allows unrestricted movement of EU citizens and goods between its member states. If that's not free trade between countries, what is?

True that, turns out it's actually the .001%.

Anything that doesn't acknowledge that the ultra rich have a stranglehold on the rest of humanity and is choking the species to death is the lazy and fantastical worldview.

 

[Dabop]

Yet any country outside the bloc find thatthe EU has lots of protectionist barriers. Just ask any UK based country.

Protectionism isn't just tarriffs.

Really- they had no issues BEFORE they left....
And afterwards- well they took their cricketbat and ball and went home- so now they don't get to play with the other kids anymore....

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

You mean "learning launches"? I don't remember when the last one was either, now that you mention it.

I think they've learnt so much from they're launches they decided to blow their spaceships up at the fuelling stage.

 

[arthwollipot]

After years of resisting it, SpaceX now plans to go public. Why?

“Much of the AI race comes down to amassing and deploying assets.”…

arstechnica.com

 

[a_unique_person]

After years of resisting it, SpaceX now plans to go public. Why?

“Much of the AI race comes down to amassing and deploying assets.”…

arstechnica.com

So he's given up on Mars already?

 

[Darat]

After years of resisting it, SpaceX now plans to go public. Why?

“Much of the AI race comes down to amassing and deploying assets.”…

arstechnica.com

If it's true the answer is on one level very simple, money.

 

[Dabop]

If it's true the answer is on one level very simple, money.

I wonder- Teslas sales are cratering worldwide, with many countries having their sales drop by 50% or more, despite overall EV sales going up by 10-20%....
Less money coming in...
AND the Tesla board just approved his 'trillion dollar payrise'- which has to be making investors bloody uneasy indeed- just WHAT does he bring to the table that makes him worth that much??? its not his 'popularity' as thats been on the downwards slope for the last few years... even the fanniest of fanboi's are starting to say 'well that IS a lot of money......
And they got to get it in somehow- or the investors dont get their money....
And that makes THEM unhappy....

And trump and him aren't bestest buds anymore- so all those government contracts have stopped or slowed as well....

I'm wondering if 'the richest man in the world' is (like trump) worth a lot less than he claims he is....

 

[jeremyp]

I just know I'd feel safer in a waymo

I'd feel safer in a Tesla with a human sitting in the front with a big stop button. That said, it's probably an irrational fear.

 

[jeremyp]

Yet any country outside the bloc find thatthe EU has lots of protectionist barriers. Just ask any UK based country.

Protectionism isn't just tarriffs.

Are you deliberately misunderstanding the point.

The point is that, within the EU there is free trade. This is enormously beneficial to everybody who lives in the EU.

Ask any UK based company that tries to export to the EU (or import from it) how much better it is to be in the free trade zone than outside it.