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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Andy_Ross said:
Trump to make all foreign tourists provide five years of social media history before entering US

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The proposed social-media requirement would apply to all visitors, regardless of whether or not they need a visa.
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As usual, The Fat Orange Prolapsed Anus doesn't think beyond the next "dumb as a cinder block" idea that pops into his head.
Family of four going on trip US. Two kids 6 and 10... where is five years of social media records goung to come from?
 
Darat said:
In the judgement they specifically address the heckler's veto, saying that courts should ensure they do not in effect apply the heckler's veto because of a violent reaction from someone else. That someone becomes angry because of what someone else has the freedom of expression to say does not mean a breach the peace has occured.
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This purported protection from the heckler's veto has been rather... selectively... applied over the last decade, wouldn't you say? There's certainly been a lack of concern about protecting female groups from violence and intimidation.
 
smartcooky said:
As usual, The Fat Orange Prolapsed Anus doesn't think beyond the next "dumb as a cinder block" idea that pops into his head.
Family of four going on trip US. Two kids 6 and 10... where is five years of social media records goung to come from?
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The volume of stupid things proposed by Trump is so large that I don't even know how to process it at this point.
 
smartcooky said:
As usual, The Fat Orange Prolapsed Anus doesn't think beyond the next "dumb as a cinder block" idea that pops into his head.
Family of four going on trip US. Two kids 6 and 10... where is five years of social media records goung to come from?
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...or Australians under the age of 21.
 
Emily's Cat said:
This purported protection from the heckler's veto has been rather... selectively... applied over the last decade, wouldn't you say? There's certainly been a lack of concern about protecting female groups from violence and intimidation.
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I would have to look at your evidence.
 
Elaedith said:
It's worse than that. He actually said that the fact that somebody knows that burning the Quran is likely to provoke a violent response is what makes burning the Quran arguably a hate crime.
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not a hate crime; but behaviour likely to provoke a breach of the peace. If you do something provocative, that can be a crime, but not a hate crime.

It is worth remembering that until recently (2008) blasphemy was a crime in England. So christians didn't have to claim something was a hate crime blasphemy against the Christian god was simply a crime.
 
Planigale said:
not a hate crime; but behaviour likely to provoke a breach of the peace. If you do something provocative, that can be a crime, but not a hate crime.
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If you do it with intent to provoke it is at the very least arguably a hate crime.
Planigale said:
It is worth remembering that until recently (2008) blasphemy was a crime in England. So christians didn't have to claim something was a hate crime blasphemy against the Christian god was simply a crime.
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There weren't a lot of prosecutions for it though.
 
In the latest episode of Skeptics With a K, Mike Hall talks about the DEI Woke War on Christmas, based on a tweet some guy made with a photo of Tesco's "Evergreen Tree" saying something like "It's a Christmas tree. Tesco's is afraid to say Christmas because of woke!" He then goes on to describe his trip to Tesco in which he is bombarded with Christmas merchandise, Christmas music, Christmas decorations and the word "Christmas" on everything that had a flat surface on which it could be slapped.

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<p>Mike looks at stories about Tesco removing Christmas from products to avoid causing offence, and Marsh has an encounter with a fan of Joe Rogan on the train home.</p><p>Sign up for the Skeptics with a K Patreon at <a...
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One example is the claim that Tesco has removed the word Christmas from packs of mince pies. They have never had the word Christmas on them, no one calls them Christmas mince pies, Tesco in its one hundred years has never put Christmas on its mince pies.
 
Planigale said:
not a hate crime; but behaviour likely to provoke a breach of the peace. If you do something provocative, that can be a crime, but not a hate crime.

It is worth remembering that until recently (2008) blasphemy was a crime in England. So christians didn't have to claim something was a hate crime blasphemy against the Christian god was simply a crime.
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And as the appeal court stated what he did was protected by his right to freedom of expression, regardless of whether that provoked someone or not.
 
Darat said:
One example is the claim that Tesco has removed the word Christmas from packs of mince pies. They have never had the word Christmas on them, no one calls them Christmas mince pies, Tesco in its one hundred years has never put Christmas on its mince pies.
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Yup, the "Christmas" is redundant. I'd argue that including it would be implying that Christmas is less special as it needs the descriptive noun.

One doesn't usually talk about "The Roman Catholic Pope" but one might talk about "the Coptic Pope" because the Roman Catholic church is so much more prominent
 
Darat said:
One example is the claim that Tesco has removed the word Christmas from packs of mince pies. They have never had the word Christmas on them, no one calls them Christmas mince pies, Tesco in its one hundred years has never put Christmas on its mince pies.
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That is in fact one of the examples explicitly mentioned in the show. Tesco's response was "well, we're just telling people what's in the box".

Also, there was one probable bot tweeting "Tesco isn't saying Christmas any more" with a photo of the boxed tree sitting on a stand WITH A BIG SIGN SAYING CHRISTMAS TREES on it.
 
There is literally an entire section on its website for Christmas trees. However, I notice that they have bowed to the wokies and instead of saying "Arrives before Christmas" they have replaced it with "Arrives before insignificant and arbitrary date of 25th December". This is an outrage! I am cancelling my BBC licence fee this very instance!

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