Wikipedia regularly uses news sites
as sources.
Propaganda can use sources and still be propaganda. Especially if the people producing it carefully curate what sources are considered "reliable".
IIRC, a source once became unreliable the second it had a single Op-Ed against the narrative a page wanted to push.
The site's also...pretty well known for agenda pushing and
bias (
one of the co-creators called it out) and is generally considered unreliable for academic purposes. Even for casual purposes, you can't trust it on anything
political and topical, especially if it's a hot topic.
Which this is.
And how many did they kill in the
decades of sending unguided rockets at Israeli civilians
before Oct 7th?
Also, you
didn't actually respond to
my post that was quoting you, personally. You didn't quote it, didn't even reference it.
You just spouted boilerplate moral grandstanding about how Israel is bad because they killed more people, with a token, non-specifc disavowal of Hamas.
I've seen that a lot since Oct 7th, actually.
Do you remember when I specifcially said Hamas had been the aggressor for
decades? In
the post you claim you're responding to?
Which wasn't directed at you?
Hamas is pretty well known to launch attacks from behind civilians. Attacks which lead to civilian casualties when Israel strikes back. And they often try to warn civilians, as detailed in my previous, linked posts.
Hamas, by contrast, tells Palestinians to ignore those warnings.
Then blames Israel entirely for civilian casualties.
Are you sure you want to equate Palestinians to irrational, abused animals lashing out as a
defense?
I sure wouldn't.
Partially because those get
put down, if they can't be helped.
Hamas could've ended the war, or at least
called Israel's bluff, just by giving back the hostages. They did not. They are responsible for the war, just like Israel is.
I also wouldn't equate a
massive organized attack and massacre/kidnapping operation by Hamas militants to a single animal irrationally lashing out. Last time I checked, that kind of thing would generally be considered an act of war, terrorism, or both.
And I don't think anyone can plan and execute that operation without
some sort of rationality, even if the actual goals are reprehensible.
I think a much more appropriate metaphor would be someone
picking a fight with a much bigger, stronger person by slugging him in the face, refusing to apologize, losing the fight, and then playing victim and lying about what happened.
Still a strained metaphor, but less so than yours.
See, it's funny you say this, because Team Palestine usually forgets, ignores, or apparently don't even know Hamas (and other Palestinians) has been attacking Israel since long before Oct 7th, including on this exact page.
Like arth.
I was responding to the claim that Israel is attacking Hamas out of "honor".
Even if Israel
was guilty of those massacres, nothing you said has any actual bearing on the claims I made.
None of your
Gish Galloping and goalpost-moving is a
rebuttal, it's just more
Israel Bad.
I believe this is the part where someone is morally outraged that I'm dismissing evidence of Israel Bad, and ignores everything else I just said about the relevance.
