Axxman300
Philosopher
This is a lie. Not one of them has dived the wreck. Going out on a boat and watching TV monitors is not the same thing. Most of us have watched the footage from the divers and the ROV, but we don't claim to have visited the wreck.
Rabe had her journalist credentials revoked for unethical conduct (lying).
Yes, and the main fact is MS Estonia sank under his leadership because his inspectors let it sail without fixing a number of problems. He has reason to need a conspiracy to deflect blame from his bureaucratic incompetence.
This is a lie. Nobody saw a hull breach. The ship was listing to that side, and by the time people were in the water that side was submerged, even if it was there (and it wasn't) nobody would have seen it, nor report it. And when the dive teams and ROVs went to the wreck the ship was lying on its side making inspection of most of the hull impossible. There's no way the JAIC investigators would have known about the hole from the investigation, and to imply this is stupid.
If he really believe that he's an idiot. The Estonia was a show boat in the traditional sense, nice big windows throughout the ship for scenic viewing for the passengers. Last time I checked, the impact with the sea floor in that area would have either broken, or dislodged many of those LARGE windows allowing for silt/mud to enter the interior, as reasonable people would expect with the impact of a multi-ton vessel stirring up a cloud.
Bemis and Rabe are morons. The human body loses buoyancy below 30 feet, and we have no idea how many passengers made it to the upper decks, or close to the upper decks. But we do know that there was a storm with high seas, and that churning water will pull people down. And that was cold, so the gasses might not, or did not expand to send them back to the surface. We see this with Titanic, and dozens of other wrecks of passenger vessels.
Had you read the latest report you'd know they did a survey of the currents around the wreck at depth, and it's active enough to push the hull upward (which is how they were able to film the gas created by the rock outcrop). So yeah, bodies would have been pushed or pulled from exposed regions of the upper decks and stairwells onto the sea floor.
And since we're required to explain the obvious, water flows INTO the ship from a breach. If anything, people on the decks would have been sucked back inside the ship, which has been documented for centuries of shipwreck reporting. The bodies landed outside, or were pushed out of the hull by the current at depth. They never stated how many bodies they saw, so it's not the anomaly you think it is.
None of this had anything to do with the bow-visor coming off. And we've all seen the dive footage. The bridge is a mess, it's lying on its side. There is no way to tell who was where when the ship went down, and the ship sank stern first pushing a wall of water forward. Your "mystery" people on the bridge may simply have been shoved in the compartment by the flow of water.
We also know, but it's not in the JAIC that there were criminals on Estonia who took advantage of the situation to rob passengers. This also has nothing to do with the bow-visor getting knocked off.
Conspiracy Theorists are exactly what they are. And this "new " investigation will be mostly the same as the last one, but with more exclamation points.
Don't need them. The bow-visor was knocked off in heavy seas.
"Public Disquiet" comes from conspiracy loons whipping up emotions. I understand. If I lived somewhere that I had to use ferries regularly I'd like to think every safety precaution is taken, and safety is at the top of the list for the crew. The Estonia sinking revealed otherwise.
Why not publish it?
