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Ed The Fascism Checklist, Trump 2025

dirtywick said:
if anything short of full blown nazism doesn’t bother you, i guess you can live with a clear conscience as long as you make sure nothing ever clears the bar.
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It is a skeptics forum and it's okay to be critical of our perspectives and the language we use.
 
Venom said:
It is a skeptics forum and it's okay to be critical of our perspectives and the language we use.
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it’s just i find focusing the argument around technically correct language to sidestep the actual discussion an incredibly tedious form of skepticism. it’s the least interesting part of any debate but often takes up the most time and energy.

not an accusation of anyone in particular. whether or not that’s what any individual in particular is doing is up to the reader. and if you genuinely enjoy that kind of discussion, don’t let me stop you either.
 
Disbelief said:
Nothing to worry about if you are a citizen...
A U.S. Army veteran who was detained during the massive immigration raid in Ventura County last week said Wednesday that he wants “a full investigation” into how he could have been held behind bars for three days despite being an American citizen.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-vet-calls-investigation-being-013820898.html
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Results of investigation: It' sbecause Dump won and the US is a fascist dictatorship now.
 
dirtywick said:
if anything short of full blown nazism doesn’t bother you, i guess you can live with a clear conscience as long as you make sure nothing ever clears the bar.
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That's why Trump's opposed to high speed rail. It's not real Nazism until the trains run on time.
 
NM156 said:
Bolded = Valid. Italicized = Not valid.

Are you under the impression that all of Germany woke up one morning hell bent on killing Jews and other minorities?
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No. I would say that most Germans, like Japanese, were innocent. I just need some details to convince me that Trump is going to order the construction of a Gulag. That is what my brother believed in 2017.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Remember, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck but hasn't actually looked at you and gone 'Quack' you're definitely not allowed to call it a duck. Until Trump invades Poland he's not a Nazi, he's just a very naughty boy.
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My wife has two Republican friends who despise Trump. I have asked, but they never tell my wife why. And she will not ask for details.

This reminds me of people who were afraid of a B-movie actor in 1980. Come to think of it, maybe the connection with the entertainment industry is not just a coincidence.
 
Here maybe?

Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to eat food from styrofoam plates “like dogs”, according to a report published on Monday into conditions at three overcrowded south Florida facilities.

The incident at the downtown federal detention center is one of a succession of alleged abuses at jails operated by Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (Ice) in the state since January, chronicled by the advocacy groups Human Rights Watch, Americans for Immigrant Justice, and Sanctuary of the South from interviews with detainees.


Dozens of men had been packed into a holding cell for hours, the report said, and denied lunch until about 7pm. They remained shackled with the food on chairs in front of them.
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Safe-Keeper said:
Would be nice if the media bothered to cover this, wouldn't it.
Any of our resident Drumpf supporters got any thoughts on this, by the way? Is it still laughably wrong of us to consider this a cruel fascist regime?
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David Muir led the ABC Evening News last night with the death of actor Malcolm-Jamal Warner. However, at least the story you mention was covered *checks notes* not at all.
 
dirtywick said:
it’s just i find focusing the argument around technically correct language to sidestep the actual discussion an incredibly tedious form of skepticism. it’s the least interesting part of any debate but often takes up the most time and energy.

not an accusation of anyone in particular. whether or not that’s what any individual in particular is doing is up to the reader. and if you genuinely enjoy that kind of discussion, don’t let me stop you either.
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It's like calling Charlie Manson a 'monster'. No, he wasn't technically stomping his way through Tokyo or built from body parts....
 
Regnad Kcin said:
David Muir led the ABC Evening News last night with the death of actor Malcolm-Jamal Warner. However, at least the story you mention was covered *checks notes* not at all.
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So a z list ex-celeb is more newsworthy than ICE committing crimes against humanity. No wonder the republican party are getting away with mass treason so handily.
 
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