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Amazon echo will upload everything

Wudang

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Where's, "We pit a sniffer on our Internet connection and measured the traffic from the Echo to an Amazon IP address"? OTW. Poo!
 
About time is all I can say, hopefully Google will start this type of upgrading as well. It's about time their devices lived up to their marketing hype.
 
Ah. I was wondering what had happened to trigger my employer (a chain of hospitals and clinics) to issue a sudden order that nobody working from home could have an Alexa or such devices in the room they work. HIPAA violation.
 
plague311 said:
I've got a buddy that uses all open source stuff. It doesn't have the voice activation but most of it can be used from his phone. People need to stop depending on these stupid little devices.
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I don't depend on mine but why should I stop using these stupid little devices that I find very helpful and useful day in, day out?

I'm more than happy that I may actually get the devices to live up to their marketed potential, I've found it very frustrating that the manufacturers have taken so long to start using the massive breakthroughs in AI we've experienced over the last few years.

Now if I had an option to use devices that could do all processing locally I would prefer that, but that would mean the devices would need to be a couple of grand each or have something like a local processing unit that costs a couple of grand and dumber devices that are connected to it.

To get the functionality I would like to see requires cloud processing at the moment.
 
My cat just activated my Alexa. (I assume to order new boxes.)
My wake word is "Echo" -- if there's one change I'd like them to make it would be to create our own wake words. But the cat had let out a broken "meow" that sounded like "eee-oh" which I guess was close enough. Sometimes even the TV would activate it with the word or something that sounds like it. It's also happened when I had the clingy cat and I often had to tell it to "Let go!".
 
Darat said:
I don't depend on mine but why should I stop using these stupid little devices that I find very helpful and useful day in, day out?
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If the lack of privacy is worth the convenience for you then my comment wasn't aimed at you. I don't think it's a mystery to anyone as to why Amazon is doing this, and that's because they're making their own generative AI, or they're selling all of that data to someone who is making a generative AI.

I want my private conversations about my family and friends to be private. I don't need some device uploading my life just so I don't have to open my laptop to order ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ ballpoint pens from Amazon, or flip a light switch, or open the garage door. I already have perfectly good analog devices that do all that ◊◊◊◊ for me that I have more control over.

As everyone in the IT world knows there's a scale for convenience vs. security. If the convenience is more important than you're security then rock on, but there's no ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ way that things like passwords or usernames won't get caught up in this as those are conversations people have in their own home.
 
As I've said before, I don't want AI in my search telling me what I really want. My ex-wife ruined that for me. I want pseudoSQL that allows clauses to exclude results. My searches usually try to be fairly focused.
 
Wudang said:
As I've said before, I don't want AI in my search telling me what I really want. My ex-wife ruined that for me. I want pseudoSQL that allows clauses to exclude results. My searches usually try to be fairly focused.
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Even when shopping on Amazon I'd like to be able to check some boxes that say "Disregard these", rather than having to check all the boxes except one.
 
plague311 said:
If the lack of privacy is worth the convenience for you then my comment wasn't aimed at you. I don't think it's a mystery to anyone as to why Amazon is doing this, and that's because they're making their own generative AI, or they're selling all of that data to someone who is making a generative AI.

I want my private conversations about my family and friends to be private. I don't need some device uploading my life just so I don't have to open my laptop to order ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ ballpoint pens from Amazon, or flip a light switch, or open the garage door. I already have perfectly good analog devices that do all that ◊◊◊◊ for me that I have more control over.

As everyone in the IT world knows there's a scale for convenience vs. security. If the convenience is more important than you're security then rock on, but there's no ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ way that things like passwords or usernames won't get caught up in this as those are conversations people have in their own home.
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Good luck to anyone who wants to clandestinely mine petabytes of audio data, looking for my PII.

I already do substantial business with Amazon. What harm could they do to me, using my vocalizations as part of their AI training corpus? They already have my passwords, my credit cards, my home address, and decades of marketing and sales data about me.

"Hello. My name is. theprestige. My voice is my. Passport. Verify. Me."

Pull the other one. It's got an MD5 checksum.
 
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theprestige said:
I already do substantial business with Amazon. What harm could they do to me, using my vocalizations as part of their AI training corpus? They already have my passwords, my credit cards, my home address, and decades of marketing and sales data about me.
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As I said, and maybe you missed, if it's worth it to you then by all means, knock yourself out. I don't like my data fed through a generative AI without any checks and balances, or even the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ option to opt out. If you don't, good for you.
 
alfaniner said:
My cat just activated my Alexa. (I assume to order new boxes.)
My wake word is "Echo" -- if there's one change I'd like them to make it would be to create our own wake words. But the cat had let out a broken "meow" that sounded like "eee-oh" which I guess was close enough. Sometimes even the TV would activate it with the word or something that sounds like it. It's also happened when I had the clingy cat and I often had to tell it to "Let go!".
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Hmm...

I always wondered why the Teletubbies greeted each other with: "Eh-Oh!"

They're communicating with Alexa!
 
theprestige said:
Good luck to anyone who wants to clandestinely mine petabytes of audio data, looking for my PII.

I already do substantial business with Amazon. What harm could they do to me, using my vocalizations as part of their AI training corpus? They already have my passwords, my credit cards, my home address, and decades of marketing and sales data about me.

"Hello. My name is. theprestige. My voice is my. Passport. Verify. Me."

Pull the other one. It's got an MD5 checksum.
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"Give me six lines written by the most honest of men and I will find in them something with which to hang him."
With the current administration in the US, I want to give them as little ammunition as possible.
 
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