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Epstein suicide conspiracy theories

I have a hard time believing that a rich man with a seemingly lot of info to cut a legal deal with would just kill himself in a very painful way at this early stage.
 
Conspiracy theories involving normal, sane people don't work because you can't keep stuff like that a secret.

Trump can't keep anything a secret.

That's why there is literally no chance that there's an alien body at Roswell. Trump would have had tweeted about it by now.
 
smartcooky said:
I'm not dismissing the idea that it was suicide, it may well have been.

What I AM saying is that this is veeeeery convenient for a helluva lot of powerful and well connected people who would surely have been crapping themselves that Epstein would roll over on them. His death is a gift from Heaven for them, and exactly what they would have been hoping for.

There is still a lot of documentary evidence in the possession of the Feds. Hopefully, that will name names, but if that evidence suddenly goes missing, then I have little doubt that we will have a full blown cover up on our hands.


ETA: And for the avoidance of doubt, much as I despise Donald Trump, I do not believe he was in any way involved in Epstein's depraved activities.
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I'll wait for the investigation...but I think Epstein had only one way out and he took it. It's strange that he was not on suicide watch since he'd already tried once. I feel bad for the guards on that block because there will be 3 investigations to get to the bottom of this.

That said, Epstein and his girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell ran an organization that trafficked minors for sex across three continents for over 25 years. In addition to that he also appears to have built his fortune on ponzi schemes. Set aside his untimely death for a moment and one must admit Epstein was at the center of a highly successful CONSPIRACY (that's what the Federal charge is). This should be treated as an opportunity to get a close look at how the real thing is done. We're talking about a man with considerable money with equally wealthy "friends", and friends in high places.

The Feds issued a statement saying that they are not dropping the case and are asking for more witnesses, and victims to come forward.

Good riddance. :thumbsup:
 
Axxman300 said:
That said, Epstein and his girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell ran an organization that trafficked minors for sex across three continents for over 25 years. In addition to that he also appears to have built his fortune on ponzi schemes.
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I sincerely hope the Feds start turning the screws on her, really hard. She could be in possession of key and damning evidence.

Axxman300 said:
Set aside his untimely death for a moment and one must admit Epstein was at the center of a highly successful CONSPIRACY (that's what the Federal charge is). This should be treated as an opportunity to get a close look at how the real thing is done. We're talking about a man with considerable money with equally wealthy "friends", and friends in high places.
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100%

Axxman300 said:
The Feds issued a statement saying that they are not dropping the case and are asking for more witnesses, and victims to come forward.
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I hope so, but I am deeply suspicious of the DoJ under Barr. His performance as AG has been, frankly, corrupt. Barr is very much a conservative partisan - I have zero doubt that if there is the slightest hint of any Republican politician's names appearing in that investigation, he will shut it down pronto., and of course if Democrat politician's names come up, it will be all ahead full.

Axxman300 said:
Good riddance. :thumbsup:
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Agree. The world is a better place without that sort of scum contaminating it.
 
Jan S said:
I have a hard time believing that a rich man with a seemingly lot of info to cut a legal deal with would just kill himself in a very painful way at this early stage.
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Mate, three years a member before your first post! Welcome in.

I think he was aware there were no deals to be cut this time. But yes, helluva convenient. Scalia x 1,000,000 is where this is headed.
 
I have trouble here.
To me, and it may not be rational, but in this instance I definitely can see the possibility, even probability of a conspiracy to quiet him.
No, not because of a hatred of Trump or Clinton.
Lots of powerful people had reason.
Now, there's supposed to be a lot of material apart from testimony thats available.
I hope so.
 
ShadowSot said:
I have trouble here.
To me, and it may not be rational, but in this instance I definitely can see the possibility, even probability of a conspiracy to quiet him.
No, not because of a hatred of Trump or Clinton.
Lots of powerful people had reason.
Now, there's supposed to be a lot of material apart from testimony thats available.
I hope so.
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I see as more likely the guy killed himself out of humiliation and shame, like a lot of people who commit suicide behind bars.
 
Venom said:
I see as more likely the guy killed himself out of humiliation and shame, like a lot of people who commit suicide behind bars.
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OH it's definitely the more straightforward one. And it's simpler and more straightforward.
There's plenty of evidence to be presented in the case yet.
And he had plenty of reasons that would cause someone to commit suicide.
 
[ctmode]...............how do we know he's actually DEAD. It may be a fake suicide to allow him to go into a wealthy and hidden 'retirement' far far away.....[/ctmode]
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The Trump-Epstein deals should be investigated, but I don't see a lot of indication that Trump would be particularly interested in underage girls- women are a status symbol for him, something to be displayed. What's the point of having sex with a 15 year old when you can't brag about?
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I have one word for you - Ivanka.
 
Hans said:
[ctmode]...............how do we know he's actually DEAD. It may be a fake suicide to allow him to go into a wealthy and hidden 'retirement' far far away.....[/ctmode]
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[debunkermode]... of course hes dead, someone would have talked, everyone knows people cant keep secrets [/debunkermode]
 
The far-right wing crazies sure have been busy dusting off those old "Clinton Murders" crackpot conspiracy theories.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Ivanka is a status symbol without having to be a romantic interest.
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Err, have you seen how he can't seem to keep his hands off her

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Hans said:
[ctmode]...............how do we know he's actually DEAD. It may be a fake suicide to allow him to go into a wealthy and hidden 'retirement' far far away.....[/ctmode]
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Jimmy9 said:
[debunkermode]... of course hes dead, someone would have talked, everyone knows people cant keep secrets [/debunkermode]
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*Scoffs* So you two actually think Epstein really existed?

Sheeple.
 
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