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Jeffrey Epstein arrested for child sex trafficking

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Billionaire financier and registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was arrested Saturday in New York on new sex-trafficking charges involving allegations that date to the early 2000s, according to law enforcement officials.
An official said Epstein is accused of paying underage girls for massages and molesting them at his homes in Florida and New York.
The arrest comes amid renewed scrutiny of a once-secret plea deal that ended a federal investigation against him.
 
Even what he has admitted to makes him scum. I'll not be at all surprised if these new charges end in a successful prosecution. He's a prime example of how wealth and the influence it can bring can distort a justice system.
 
Trebuchet said:
Is this new activity since the previous charges, or just stuff he didn't get charged with before?
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The indictment is sealed. But this may be related to a recent court decision that was critical of the plea deal he got a decade ago.

Wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking, sources say

Earlier this year, a federal judge ruled that the deal did, in fact, violate the rights of Epstein’s victims. The court is now considering the possible remedies for the violation of the law.

"If today’s report is true, it only proves that the Epstein should have been charged by federal prosecutors twelve years ago in Florida," Paul Cassell, co-counsel along with Edwards for victims Jane Doe 1 and 2 in the case challenging the DOJ over the non-prosecution agreement with Epstein, said in a statement. "With his money, Epstein was able to buy more than a decade of delay in facing justice – but fortunately he wasn’t able to postpone justice forever."
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I'm not sure how a not-quite-kosher plea deal applies to double jeopardy. Or how any of that works. If the plea deal was not done right, can the original guilty plea be considered void and the whole prosecution started over?
 
Well, Epstein is or was a Trump buddy.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump, 2002 https://t.co/3pbKrcFdn6
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Or maybe Epstein will get another good deal from someone like Alexander Acosta.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/alexander-acosta-jeffrey-epstein-plea-deal
Alexander Acosta who, following a three-part investigation by the *Miami Herald, was found on Thursday to have broken the law when he and other prosecutors let Jeffrey Epstein, who was literally running an international sex operation that included underaged girls, sign a plea agreement and conceal it from more than 30 victims. Rather than prosecuting the billionaire under federal sex trafficking laws, Acosta, then the U.S. attorney in Miami, negotiated “a non-prosecution agreement that gave Epstein and his co-conspirators immunity” and allowed him to quietly plead guilty to just two prostitution charges in state court, and serve less than 18 months in a county jail.
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Ranb
 
Ranb said:
Well, Epstein is or was a Trump buddy.
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He's also a Bill Clinton buddy. He's one of those people with ties to all sorts of powerful people on both sides of a the aisle. Or, at least, he HAD all sorts of ties.

I guess the one catch is that most of his Democratic friends are pretty much out of the picture. Whereas the problematic plea deal was done by a Republican who is in the current administration and the current president was also friend.

I don't expect to see any functional political effect from this. Any ties to Trump will be deflected by bringing up ties to Bill Clinton. Never mind that one is still President and is looking to run for re-election while the other is less politically influential than ever.
 
crescent said:
He's also a Bill Clinton buddy. He's one of those people with ties to all sorts of powerful people on both sides of a the aisle. Or, at least, he HAD all sorts of ties.

I guess the one catch is that most of his Democratic friends are pretty much out of the picture. Whereas the problematic plea deal was done by a Republican who is in the current administration and the current president was also friend.

I don't expect to see any functional political effect from this. Any ties to Trump will be deflected by bringing up ties to Bill Clinton. Never mind that one is still President and is looking to run for re-election while the other is less politically influential than ever.
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Epstein's connection to Donald Trump and Bill Clinton kept his (Epstein) name off the agenda in 2016. Neither candidate could really use it against the other. It's now 2020 election time and none of the Democratic candidates have the connection to Epstein. This could create some difficulties for Trump but I don't think it's fatal.

Going to trial could prove to be embarrassing for some of the people who are connected to Epstein, Dershowitz and Prince Andrew among others
 
crescent said:
The indictment is sealed. But this may be related to a recent court decision that was critical of the plea deal he got a decade ago.

Wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking, sources say



I'm not sure how a not-quite-kosher plea deal applies to double jeopardy. Or how any of that works. If the plea deal was not done right, can the original guilty plea be considered void and the whole prosecution started over?
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Double Jeopardy only applies if jeopardy has attached. I don't think that routinely happens with a plea deal.

Remember also, that a judge has ruled that Acosta broke the law in negotiating that plea deal, so the deal might well be void.
 
Also, the fact that it is a sealed indictment is very interesting. It could mean that there is someone else named in the indictment that the prosecutors don't want mentioned in public.
 
smartcooky said:
Also, the fact that it is a sealed indictment is very interesting. It could mean that there is someone else named in the indictment that the prosecutors don't want mentioned in public.
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The Daily Beast has an "exclusive" on this and claims that the indictment will be unsealed tomorrow and that the FBI will ask for more victims to come forward.
 
This will be interesting. The cesspool of Twitter is beside itself about who Epstein will bring down with him.

I don't care what political side they are on, if they are involved in this they should go to jail.
 
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