• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Jeffrey Epstein arrested for child sex trafficking

Darat said:
Even what he has admitted to makes him scum. I'll not be at all surprised if these new charges end in a successful prosecution. He's a prime example of how wealth and the influence it can bring can distort a justice system.
Click to expand...

Influence protects you, until it doesn't. There's a tipping point at which the people you rely on for protection decide that they're better off not protecting you. And since those calculations are coupled (you don't want to be the last person protecting someone who's going down anyways), the collapse of influence can be sudden and complete.
 
theprestige said:
???

You don't think Trump would tweet incontinently about whatever scandal he was embroiled in?

In which he was embroiled?
Click to expand...
"Trump would have said so by now"

He's admitted being on Epstein's plane, but you are suggesting Trump would have said he poked 13 yr olds? He denied that multiple times.
 
Last edited:
Skeptic Ginger said:
"Trump would have said so by now"

He's admitted being on Epstein's plane, but you are suggesting Trump would have said he poked 13 yr olds? He denied that multiple times.
Click to expand...

I think he's saying Trump would have tweeted something about the charges if he felt Epstein might turn on him with actually damaging info. Maybe complained that Epstein is being railroaded, or that it's just an attempt to get to Trump, or something. The point is that silence isn't Trump's style for anything he cares about. So either he doesn't care, or he's taking a different approach than his usual one.
 
smartcooky said:
Also, the fact that it is a sealed indictment is very interesting. It could mean that there is someone else named in the indictment that the prosecutors don't want mentioned in public.
Click to expand...

Is the indictment supposed to be unsealed on Monday? I think I read that somewhere. That would mean soon. Within the next 24 hours.

Some rich and powerful men are 'sweating it out’ ahead of indictment against registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein: journalist (New York Daily News)

OK, not the most sober and reliable of sources, but worth a read here.

Last week an appeals court ordered the release of a 2,000-page document linked to the Epstein case be unsealed, ruling that the public’s right of access to court papers overrides the privacy concerns of certain individuals. The 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals decision references allegations of sexual abuse involving "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister, and other world leaders."
Click to expand...

Key word here is "allegations" though.
 
theprestige said:
???

You don't think Trump would tweet incontinently about whatever scandal he was embroiled in?

In which he was embroiled?
Click to expand...

Ziggurat said:
I think he's saying Trump would have tweeted something about the charges if he felt Epstein might turn on him with actually damaging info. Maybe complained that Epstein is being railroaded, or that it's just an attempt to get to Trump, or something. The point is that silence isn't Trump's style for anything he cares about. So either he doesn't care, or he's taking a different approach than his usual one.
Click to expand...


If I understand what you are saying here, then I agree with both of you (and ain't that a thing).

Firstly, much as I despise Trump for his womanizing and his misogynistic attitude, I seriously doubt that he would be a kiddie fiddler. I know he likes them young, but I doubt he likes them that young.

Second, if I'm wrong about that, and he really is involved, he would already have undertaken a twitter rage campaign accusing "them Ebil Dems" of concocting a hoax and a witch hunt, reciting "no involvement".

He is so predictable... we all know what he does and how he acts when he is guilty of something, we can read him like a book!
 
Last edited:
Ziggurat said:
I think he's saying Trump would have tweeted something about the charges if he felt Epstein might turn on him with actually damaging info. Maybe complained that Epstein is being railroaded, or that it's just an attempt to get to Trump, or something. The point is that silence isn't Trump's style for anything he cares about. So either he doesn't care, or he's taking a different approach than his usual one.
Click to expand...

Too much imaginary tea leaf reading for my book.
 
I doubt the FBI would have gone forward if there was an unmistakable criminal connection between Epstein and Trump.

But there are plenty of connections between Epstein and people working, directly or indirectly, for Trump, like Dershowitz and Acosta.

Trump just doesn't who to throw under the bus yet to keep himself looking unconnected.
 
I'm gonna agree with Skeptic Ginger on this one. Not much point in speculating until the documents are unsealed. Trump would be foolish to deny something he hasn't even been publicly accused of yet, and I don't think he's that foolish.
 
Puppycow said:
I'm gonna agree with Skeptic Ginger on this one. Not much point in speculating until the documents are unsealed. Trump would be foolish to deny something he hasn't even been publicly accused of yet, and I don't think he's that foolish.
Click to expand...

... never stopped him before ...
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
"Trump would have said so by now"

He's admitted being on Epstein's plane, but you are suggesting Trump would have said he poked 13 yr olds? He denied that multiple times.
Click to expand...


All you need is a headline saying that Trump is much too ugly and unattractive for an underage girl to want to have anything to do with him, and he'll post the photos to prove you wrong!
 
cow_cat said:
So, it's like pizzagate, but real?
Click to expand...

I'm going to avoid the pedantic discussion, but the Pizzagate people, like most satanic panic conspiracy theorists, believed that young children of both genders were being victimized. Not high school girls.
 
JoeMorgue said:
You're literally the first person in this thread to use the term "pedophile."
Click to expand...

I didn't claim it was related to discussion here Bloomberg, the NY post , daily mail, and others have all used the term. Calling it important was tongue and cheek, but I think the pedantic discussion is on its way.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I didn't claim it was related to discussion here Bloomberg, the NY post , daily mail, and others have all used the term. Calling it important was tongue and cheek, but I think the pedantic discussion is on its way.
Click to expand...

Yeah because you intend to start it.

"Pedantic Discussions" aren't naturally occurring phenomenon. They are started by pedants. Pedants like you.
 
dann said:
All you need is a headline saying that Trump is much too ugly and unattractive for an underage girl to want to have anything to do with him, and he'll post the photos to prove you wrong!
Click to expand...

Oh, one can only wish!

“I don’t like thirteen-year-olds, they had to be fourteen to compete in my pageant!”
 
I read through the indictment. What I can't tell from it is how it relates to his previous charges. In particular, is this a completely separate group of victims from the ones he was charge with abusing before? That would make sense, in terms of not having to deal with the previous plea or with double jeopardy, but the indictment itself makes no mention of the previous deal so there's still some ambiguity, at least for those who haven't closely followed this horror show.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom