It sounds like Abandon All Hope.
MM
I couldn't agree more, AAH is also full of comments from truthers avoiding questions, going of topic and claiming to be engineers.
If you have been following the yt comments you will know what I am talking about.
It sounds like Abandon All Hope.
MM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqSriVVgBhQ&feature=youtube
Wtf is this about.
LMFAO this is sad attention seeking, talk about giving the truth movement a bad name.
You can get excited now. You view count will go up. 174 views in just over 2 years.
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Burden of proof is IMO the central procedural error in all the debates on these forums.
It must be AFAICS because there has never been a coherent claim to prima facie standard put forwards by any truther. i.e. the prima facie standard of "it is worthy of a response". There may be the odd exception but claims are (appear to be) universally "Here is an anomaly that I cannot explain THEREFORE you debunkers prove it is wrong.
And even that comes in two versions viz:
1) Prove the anomaly wrong - which isn't all that serious; OR
2) Prove that the "big question" is wrong because I identified an anolmaly that I cannot explain - whether that "big question" is CD or No plane or....whatever.
And usually the "reversed burden of proof" is backed up by the false dilemma - "If you cannot prove me wrong I must be right!"
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Put crudely it can be hard to know where stupid ends and dishonesty begins. "Their" limitations appear as soon as you try to pin them down on anything - doesn't have to be "conclusions" - more often it comes much earlier when you try to get "them" to define WTF they are talking about.One particularly stupid specimen I deal with on another forum states that the burden of proof is on me to prove the official story, as she doesn't believe it. Just one of the many evasive tactics she employs.
One particularly stupid specimen I deal with on another forum states that the burden of proof is on me to prove the official story, as she doesn't believe it. Just one of the many evasive tactics she employs.
I have noticed that MM's view count is up a little with a peach of a comment on the top.
I have also noticed that ae911 are kind of celebrating getting close to a million views on one of their videos. They only have 10000 likes though.
It's got me wondering whether they are buying views of eBay ? I personally wouldn't put it past them, however I could be wrong, but the more I keep seeing yt truther saying they are many in numbers the less I can find. It seems to be the same few spamming.
Reminds me, the other day, someone on Youtube said that 80% of Americans believe the US government was behind 9/11.
I'm glad to hear that they're not extending beyond their reach though; that they're all high-fiving and congratulating each other because of the number of views on a Youtube video. They might not ever achieve that elusive publication in a legitimate scientific journal, but give them another decade and some luck, and just maaaaybe they might be 1/100th as notable as "Gangam Style" or "Charlie Bit My Finger."
But knowing 9/11 truth, they'll probably fail at that too.
Maybe the worst thing they do is claim the NIST report is all lies or wrong... and then when you engage them on it it becomes clear they have never even seen the damn thing.
I haven't read every page but I've spent more than a few hours perusing it and it's thorough and informative.
Honestly all you should have to do is watch a few minutes of the videos of the initiation of collapse of each tower, including the bulging of the outer columns, and then watch that upper mass pound its way to the ground- then watch a video of a controlled demolition.
This is why the NIST report stated there was no need to search for explosive residue. Hell there was no need to do a damn study, it was obvious what happened. A floor fails and momentum takes over. The mass of each building suspended against gravity had the stored energy of a Hiroshima bomb.
Sorry I'm ranting I just don't get where these peoples' heads are. Oh yeah, screwed in the fudgesocket, fully torqued.
Interesting question, but easy to answer from what I've experienced: anybody who disagrees with a truther's personal definition of DA TROOF can easily be labeled as a liar and/or disinfo agent.Typical truther. Says the FDNY aren't liars, but rather that their accounts are false. What defines a "liar" in the world of truthism anyway?
Interesting question, but easy to answer from what I've experienced: anybody who disagrees with a truther's personal definition of DA TROOF can easily be labeled as a liar and/or disinfo agent.

I'd like to point out that bomb-sniffing dogs were used, and still found nothing.
Youtube truthers. I've dealt with so many over the years that I can honestly conclude they are the biggest group of total wacko's out there. Total thorough going idiots. No more. They sit on youtube searching out anything 9/11, and spraying it with their spammed rhetoric. You can show them the answers to all the claims, and they dismiss it as fake, staged, wrong, lies, etc. Total morons. You want to see some interesting threads? Have a look at some of the comments on my '9/11 conspiracy road trip' upload.