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yellow bamboo does it really work?

Re: Re: Re: yellow bamboo does it really work?

LeFevre said:


Best thing I have yet heard. I think T'ai Chi has one of the best ways to test their claim.

Sounds good to me. I do wonder whether they'd let them use the electrified darts, cattle prods, trip wires, or whatever the heck they're using though.

If they do have a real claim, I'd find it amusing.

If they don't, I'd still find it amusing. :j2:
 
yellowbamboo said:
1. Pick someone to come here to do a test.

2. COme for the full moon joining ceremony

3. Meet with Pak serengen for the full moon ceremony. Politely ask him
if he would be willing to give you a demo in two days hence. If yes-
cool if no go to plan B


4. Plan B Take private lessons untilt he sunday class so you can try
to knock down attacker yourself (optional) GO to both the 8AM free
class on sunday nmorning in singaraja and 5pm one sunday in
petitinget.

Ask if you can repel attackers (optional)

BTW- video all this for back home and tell them and pak serengen your
considering inviting him to perth to give classes- this shoudl clench
it cause I know serengen really wants to go to abroad and teach and
hey if it really works you will want him to cvome, no?

Anway- ask the headmaster if you can video a demo of people repelling
attackers.
One of the demos is what I xcall "bull in the ring" where all the
students stand around in a circle with the repeller in the middle and
people charge at the defender at random and try to kill him.

Now there are two bull in the ring scenarios-

a) One is the one where you repel attackers as seen in the video-
b) One is where you hit the guy with all your strength and he suffers
no harm.

So for either or both- you get really mad, angry enough to kill and
charge the
guy with all you got.

If you get knocked on yer ass you know ti works

if you dont- you get to knock the sh** outta someone without any
penalties :-)


Anyway it is worth a shot.

But dont tell anyone *I* put you up to this :-)


All the best,

YBS

Remotely knock down a deaf person wearing a blindfold.
 
It's dark and poorly shot to hide the fact that its a con.
The yellow bamboo people are unable to adequately demonstrate their "special power" so as far as i'm concerned it's a fake.

You can't make yourself invisible, you can't fly and you can't knock people down at range. Worse still your droning on utter waffle about how unfair the test is etc etc.. well boohoo ;-( - the only way you will ever pass the Randi test is to take the damn thing.

Personally i think people who can be shown to be knowingly win the Randi prize via deception should be treated like any fraudster. Obtaining money by deception is a crime.

AX
 
Interesting. Would Pak serengen be willing to undergo a Bull In the Ring test?

We could meet and take out a mpa. We would throw a dart at the map and that would be the location.

We would then drive to the location and as we are driving, we would pick up 12 big huskie guys randomly. We would pay them $50.00 if they can beat Pak up. In fact we would pay them $50.00 if they can touch him. Of course we would have to make sure that Pak didnt have a chance to talk to them and offer them more money.

Then when we get to the location, we soak Pak down with water (this will electrocute him if he is using electricity) and we put him in the middle of the 12 people.

They then take turns trying to hit him.

How is this for a test!

:) the problem is that if he is a fraud then would we be liable when they beat the crap out of him.
 
1. Pick someone to come here to do a test.

Why, when a great venue for you people to show off your superpowers is already available, Pride Japan. Do you have anyone skilled enough to use their powers in a fight?

2. COme for the full moon joining ceremony

For what purpose?

3. Meet with Pak serengen for the full moon ceremony. Politely ask him
if he would be willing to give you a demo in two days hence. If yes-
cool if no go to plan B


Screw being polite, I do not treat criminals with respect.

4. Plan B Take private lessons untilt he sunday class so you can try
to knock down attacker yourself (optional) GO to both the 8AM free
class on sunday nmorning in singaraja and 5pm one sunday in
petitinget.


No, I am not going to waste my money to prove that your superpowers are imagined.


hey if it really works you will want him to cvome, no?


If it really works, why do you people evade tests? Prove it works, have your master win Pride or UFC.


people charge at the defender at random and try to kill him.


BS. It's a staged event.

Now there are two bull in the ring scenarios-

a) One is the one where you repel attackers as seen in the video-
b) One is where you hit the guy with all your strength and he suffers
no harm.


Then you people should have no problem winning a MMA tournament.

So for either or both- you get really mad, angry enough to kill and
charge the
guy with all you got.


Why must someone be angry for you to use your powers? I think I could kick your butts using only 25% of "what I got" and not even get angry.


if you dont- you get to knock the sh** outta someone without any
penalties :-)


Ready to meet someone in the ring where you don't control the environment and have the ability to cheat?


Anyway it is worth a shot.


No, it's not.



You Yellow BS'ers are full of crap. If your powers really worked, you'd be able to win the UFC, Pride or other major martial art fighting events. Yet...... not one of you will ever show up to compete in one, will you?
 
For those who know how to access unreleased commentaries (it involves arithmetic), I'd note that Randi is fairly sure a taser was used. Is this an illegal assault?
 
Pakaran said:
For those who know how to access unreleased commentaries (it involves arithmetic), I'd note that Randi is fairly sure a taser was used. Is this an illegal assault?

Maybe, but it'd be hard to push in Indonesian court. Frankly, I think it'd be hard to prosecute in any court, gven that a martial arts demonstration was allegedly in progress, and thus there was a chance that the participants would get hurt.

I challenge the leader of Yellow Bamboo to come to Michigan and stand in broad daylight and defend himself against me using his remote-knock-down power. For the record, I have no background in martial arts at all.
 
A cattle prod is designed for a big cow/bull and would not be safe to use on humans?
 
Cattle prods are more painful/annoying while stun guns incapacitate/disorientate.
There are stun guns shaped like cattle prods though (stun batons I guess).
 
MemeHacker said:
Cattle prods are more painful/annoying while stun guns incapacitate/disorientate.
There are stun guns shaped like cattle prods though (stun batons I guess).

More specifically - a cattle prod uses a low voltage and high current to have a local effect (causing pain), while a stun gun is designed to give a high voltage to have overall effects on the nervous system.

I guess a cattle prod is a variant on licking the terminals of a 9-volt battery (am I the only one who has done this on a dare?)
 
Pakaran said:
.....a cattle prod uses a low voltage and high current to have a local effect....while a stun gun is designed to give a high voltage to have overall effects on the nervous system.
We are looking at a stun gun then.
 
I was thinking more like these, which I have read are available in Indonesia.


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It's really a shame that nobody had access to the "attacker" immediately after this demonstration because, with apologies to Mr. Randi, a stun gun DOES leave a mark on the body.

When I was in 9th grade the local police came to the school and gave a demonstration/talk to one of our classes. As part of this demonstration, they had about 10 kids hold hands in a circle, with two folks touching the electrodes of a stun gun (one on either side of a break in the circle, natch). The officer then tripped the switch for just a second, and the 50,000 (or so) volts went all the way around the circle and shocked everyone just enough for them to feel it. After the demonstration, I asked the officer if I could hit myself in the arm with it to see what it felt like, and he let me pop my arm a couple of times (while looking at me funny, I might add.) After doing this, there were four small red spots on my arm (one per electrode, two hits) that faded over the course of the day. I can't remember how long they lasted, but I know they were still there at the end of the day. I seem to remember something about "blood rushing away from the site of direct contact and then rushing back" as an explanation, but it's been a lot of years.

Now, these marks were not BRIGHT red, but were very visible. It's shame that nobody checked over the attacker for such marks. I imagine they might be more visible if you were shocked long enough to drop you, but I dunno.

Edited to add...

http://www.google.ca/search?q=stun+gun,+marks&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=

Apparently there's a lot of talk about some marks on JonBenet Ramsey's body being made with a stun gun, so there is a surprising amount of information out there. One of those links includes a photo from her autopsy showing the marks. The marks on my skin looked more faint, but (and I don't know how to put this in a non-grisly manner) my skin wasn't deathly pale.
 

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