yellow bamboo does it really work?

[yellowbamboo]

1. Pick someone to come here to do a test.

2. COme for the full moon joining ceremony

3. Meet with Pak serengen for the full moon ceremony. Politely ask him
if he would be willing to give you a demo in two days hence. If yes-
cool if no go to plan B


4. Plan B Take private lessons untilt he sunday class so you can try
to knock down attacker yourself (optional) GO to both the 8AM free
class on sunday nmorning in singaraja and 5pm one sunday in
petitinget.

Ask if you can repel attackers (optional)

BTW- video all this for back home and tell them and pak serengen your
considering inviting him to perth to give classes- this shoudl clench
it cause I know serengen really wants to go to abroad and teach and
hey if it really works you will want him to cvome, no?

Anway- ask the headmaster if you can video a demo of people repelling
attackers.
One of the demos is what I xcall "bull in the ring" where all the
students stand around in a circle with the repeller in the middle and
people charge at the defender at random and try to kill him.

Now there are two bull in the ring scenarios-

a) One is the one where you repel attackers as seen in the video-
b) One is where you hit the guy with all your strength and he suffers
no harm.

So for either or both- you get really mad, angry enough to kill and
charge the
guy with all you got.

If you get knocked on yer ass you know ti works

if you dont- you get to knock the sh** outta someone without any
penalties


Anyway it is worth a shot.

But dont tell anyone *I* put you up to this


All the best,

YBS

 

[Ravenwood]

Ahem...If you wish to go for the challenge, the rules are here: http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html
Just posting "to see if it works" is a waste of time. If you really want to prove it, follow the rules & take the challenge.

 

[T'ai Chi]

I wonder if some YB members or the masters could join the UFC or some other no holds barred challenge and see if they can repel the attackers.

 

[Pyrrho]

Of course it doesn't really work. Such powers are precluded by the laws of physics.

Next.

 

[Kevin_Lowe]

Re: Re: yellow bamboo does it really work?

I wonder if some YB members or the masters could join the UFC or some other no holds barred challenge and see if they can repel the attackers.

What? We know that could cause fatal internal injuries to those professional fighters! The Yellow Bamboo masters would never stoop so low!



It's fun to imagine Pak Serengen getting slammed to the ground by a roided-up pro, though. I would pay to see it.

Oh yes, I would pay to see it.

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

Of course it doesn't really work. Such powers are precluded by the laws of physics.

Next.

Not so fast. Maybe I'm just being dense.

I read what Randi wrote about it and parts of various forum threads, and I still can't figure out what the Hell they claim to be doing.

It sounds like they say they can make people flinch by swinging bamboo rods at them. What's supernatural about that?

Or is it more like the Pentacostal "slain in the spirit" trick?

 

[arcticpenguin]

Not so fast. Maybe I'm just being dense.

I read what Randi wrote about it and parts of various forum threads, and I still can't figure out what the Hell they claim to be doing.

It sounds like they say they can make people flinch by swinging bamboo rods at them. What's supernatural about that?

Or is it more like the Pentacostal "slain in the spirit" trick?

It's the reverse. When someone attacks them with a bamboo stick, they can make the attacker fall down without touching the attacker (or so they claim).

 

[Starrman]

2. COme for the full moon joining ceremony

Why is this and all the other malarky necessary? Are you saying they can only repel the attack of someone who is also a member of Yellow Bamboo and has gone through training?

Here's my protocol.

1) We meet somewhere neutral.
2) I don't even see Pak until I am across from him for the demo
3) Every one else is barricaded away from us, but can observe. The observers will be a mixture of Yellow Bamboo members, scientists, skeptics and the curious.
4) Cameras are mounted from several angles, and the area is well lit
5) I think about Baney the Purple Dinasour, whom I hate, to fill my heart with hate
6) I carefully walk up to Pak and try to touch him with some bamboo.

Could he knock me down with his magic under these conditions?

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

It's the reverse. When someone attacks them with a bamboo stick, they can make the attacker fall down without touching the attacker (or so they claim).

OK now I get it.

Does the trick only work if the attacker wields bamboo? Will it work against a Louisville Slugger? Or bare fists?

 

[Pyrrho]

Not so fast. Maybe I'm just being dense.

I read what Randi wrote about it and parts of various forum threads, and I still can't figure out what the Hell they claim to be doing.

It sounds like they say they can make people flinch by swinging bamboo rods at them. What's supernatural about that?

Or is it more like the Pentacostal "slain in the spirit" trick?

No, you run at the YB practitioner as if to attack him and he unleashes a primal scream at you, while also doing an impression of Darth Sideous with his fingers, only without the SFX. You are knocked down by the Power of the Force. Or, as in one of the videos, you fall down before the guy begins his scream/fingers routine, thereby proving not only the power of Yellow Bamboo, but time warps as well.

The actual stick of bamboo seems to be optional.

 

[Patricio Elicer]

No, you run at the YB practitioner as if to attack him and he unleashes a primal scream at you, while also doing an impression of Darth Sideous with his fingers, only without the SFX. You are knocked down by the Power of the Force

If this is a compulsory condition on the test, then it raises suspicions that the subject is obliged to pass through a predetermined and "special" spot of the ground. Why not just knock him down while standing still?

 

[Pyrrho]

If this is a compulsory condition on the test, then it raises suspicions that the subject is obliged to pass through a predetermined and "special" spot of the ground. Why not just knock him down while standing still?

Good point. Another point to consider is that even if genuine, this power is useless against common attackers, who are extremely unlikely to come running at you from several meters away wearing bright yellow shirts.

 

[arcticpenguin]

Good point. Another point to consider is that even if genuine, this power is useless against common attackers, who are extremely unlikely to come running at you from several meters away wearing bright yellow shirts.

Unless of course you're an NFL quarterback...

 

[LeFevre]

Re: Re: yellow bamboo does it really work?

I wonder if some YB members or the masters could join the UFC or some other no holds barred challenge and see if they can repel the attackers.

Best thing I have yet heard. I think T'ai Chi has one of the best ways to test their claim.

 

[T'ai Chi]

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Best thing I have yet heard. I think T'ai Chi has one of the best ways to test their claim.

Thank you, thank you! *bows*

 

[Andonyx]

For what it's worth, I have a theory based on his description in the last commentary that the reason they shot at night with cruddy time-lapse stills is that they are deliberately trying to obscure the use of the tazer gun they fire at the attacker.

That would explain the twitching Randi describes after the attacker's fall.

I'm not sure this works in a crowd setting except that tazer guns often send out bolts of electricity that stun the attacker even before the probes hit the target.


Edited to add:
I see Ffed beat me to it in the Bamboo Video Thread. Oh well.

 

[JKDChick]

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Best thing I have yet heard. I think T'ai Chi has one of the best ways to test their claim.

This challenge has been made to other groups (and a certain individual who not only claims to be a "ninja" [he's caucasian, which makes that impossible] but also a Jedi [he's also apparently a bit looney]).

Always, these groups claim their art is "too deadly". In return, I think it is reasonable to assert that nothing can be called effective till it can be used at full strength against an uncooperative, resisting opponent.

 

[Colloden]

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This challenge has been made to other groups (and a certain individual who not only claims to be a "ninja" [he's caucasian, which makes that impossible] but also a Jedi [he's also apparently a bit looney]).

A Ninja is a practitioner of the art of Ninjutsu, ethnicity has no bearing on such a claim.

 

[Marc]

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Always, these groups claim their art is "too deadly". In return, I think it is reasonable to assert that nothing can be called effective till it can be used at full strength against an uncooperative, resisting opponent.

If it is "too deadly" then how do you practice it? "Ok class, today we practice the 'Grip of Death', the half of the class that survives will move on to the next technique"

 

[Pakaran]

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A Ninja is a practitioner of the art of Ninjutsu, ethnicity has no bearing on such a claim.

I thought a Ninja was a member of an ancient Japanese order of assassins. Either that, or a pizza-loving reptile.