Wormhole In The Bermuda Triangle?

[Eyeron]

One of the most unusual hypothesis I've heard about the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle is that they are being caused by an underwater wormhole.

Can this be scientifically possible? If no, why not?

 

[Giggywig]

If there was an underwater wormhole taking ships away wouldn't it also be taking the water away? I'd think you'd notice a large whirlpool sucking up the Atlantic Ocean. Also, is the Bermuda Triangle any more risky than any other area with similar traffic?

 

[dogjones]

Hmm. I do have a slight infestation of churchworms. But I think they come in under the door, not through holes they make themselves. Actually they aren't really technically worms either. More like millipedes.

 

[blutoski]

One of the most unusual hypothesis I've heard about the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle is that they are being caused by an underwater wormhole.

Can this be scientifically possible? If no, why not?

I think the bigger challenge is whether wormholes themselves are possible, much less whether there's one in the bermuda triangle.

An underwater wormhole also wouldn't explain how planes allegedly disappear.

To be frank: it's a very convoluted explanation to a mundane problem. Ockham's Razor suggests that normal rates of machine failure in a high traffic area and exaggerated retelling of anecdotes is a more satisfactory explanation than hypothetical physical constructs.


Related question: does your friend think that missing socks from the dryer should be explained with wormholes, too? Or is that 'silly'?

 

[Cainkane1]

One of the most unusual hypothesis I've heard about the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle is that they are being caused by an underwater wormhole.

Can this be scientifically possible? If no, why not?

If there was a wormhole under the water far more would disappear than just a few ships. The whole planet would disappear.

 

[paiute]

Objection!

One of the most unusual hypothesis I've heard about the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle is that they are being caused by an underwater wormhole.

Can this be scientifically possible? If no, why not?

You are assuming facts not in evidence. First you have to demonstrate that there are actually significantly more ships and planes disappearing in the alleged Triangle than in other areas of other oceans after normalizing for differences in traffic volume.

 

[Checkmite]

Also, is the Bermuda Triangle any more risky than any other area with similar traffic?

There is no area with similar traffic. TMK, the region occupied by the Bahamas and the Leewards is the most heavily-traveled area in the world, as far as boats and ships go.

 

[RossFW]

...And many disappearances attributed to the triangle actually occurred far outside it. It does not have a remarkable record considering the traffic levels and weather conditions present.

 

[Eyeron]

You are assuming facts not in evidence. First you have to demonstrate that there are actually significantly more ships and planes disappearing in the alleged Triangle than in other areas of other oceans after normalizing for differences in traffic volume.

No I did not because I did not make the claim of more ships and planes disappearing in this area than anywhere else in the world. I was specifically asking about the wormhole hypothesis in the Bermuda triangle and whether it could feasible for a wormhole to exist in such conditions. Those are two different things, so this is a strawman argument.

 

[godless dave]

If I recall correctly, the wormholes that are posited to exist exist only for very short periods of time and are very small, much smaller than a hydrogen atom, let alone a ship.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Can this be scientifically possible? If no, why not?

It is not a scientifically possible explanation for the Bermuda Triangle phenomenon because there is no Bermuda Triangle phenomenon in need of explanation.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

No I did not because I did not make the claim of more ships and planes disappearing in this area than anywhere else in the world. I was specifically asking about the wormhole hypothesis in the Bermuda triangle and whether it could feasible for a wormhole to exist in such conditions. Those are two different things, so this is a strawman argument.

I disagree. You're asking about the wormhole thing as an explanation for a phenomenon that does not exist.

You're asking whether this can be a scientifically possible explanation, and the answer is no it cannot because there is nothing in need of explanation.

ETA: If you mean to ask, "Is it scientifically possible for an underwater wormhole to exist and cause the disappearance of a ship or airplane?" I would say you're still asking the wrong question.

Here's a better one, "Is there any evidence to suggest that an underwater wormhole exists that caused the disappearance of a ship or airplane?" The answer to that one is, no.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

An underwater wormhole also wouldn't explain how planes allegedly disappear.

In fact, planes "disappear" in this context by crashing (ETA: or running out of fuel because they were lost or whatever) over the ocean and sinking. No mystery at all. We don't expect to find the wreckage.

So even if the wormhole thing were possible and true, the plane is already "disappeared" before the underwater wormhole eats the sinking wreckage. So on that level, the wormhole hypothesis is unnecessary as well.

 

[LostAngeles]

Unfortunately, the Bermuda Triangle has no well-defined borders, making it impossible to pin down the exact number of disappearances, making it impossible to determine if it has an unusually large number of disappearances as compared to other areas of the oceans with similar conditions.

Hence, we don't have anything to really ask a good question about and so your OP is pointless.

That, and there wouldn't be any water, or fish or landmasses there.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

If there was an underwater wormhole taking ships away wouldn't it also be taking the water away? I'd think you'd notice a large whirlpool sucking up the Atlantic Ocean. Also, is the Bermuda Triangle any more risky than any other area with similar traffic?

And since we're observing a rise in sea levels, then there must be a worm hole in the Atlantic whose other opening is in a very Earth-like planet in an ocean at a point where the water pressure is higher than the pressure at our opening!
QED!

 

[Eyeron]

I disagree. You're asking about the wormhole thing as an explanation for a phenomenon that does not exist.

You're asking whether this can be a scientifically possible explanation, and the answer is no it cannot because there is nothing in need of explanation.

ETA: If you mean to ask, "Is it scientifically possible for an underwater wormhole to exist and cause the disappearance of a ship or airplane?" I would say you're still asking the wrong question.

Here's a better one, "Is there any evidence to suggest that an underwater wormhole exists that caused the disappearance of a ship or airplane?" The answer to that one is, no.

Sorry, you lose. I am not interested in a semantic argument. Not to mention putting words in my mouth. Any more response to this and I'll report you.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Sorry, you lose. I am not interested in a semantic argument. Not to mention putting words in my mouth. Any more response to this and I'll report you.

You'll "report me" for answering the very question that you asked?

(If you're accusing me of falsely attributing a quote, you are simply wrong. I did no such thing. I clearly introduced the alternative questions such that no one reading my post would think they were your words.)

I'm not sure what you mean when you say you're not interested in a semantic argument. (All arguments rely on semantics. Semantics refers to meaning.)

I answered your question as it was written. However, in part because you wrote this:

No I did not because I did not make the claim of more ships and planes disappearing in this area than anywhere else in the world.

I also answered a rephrased version of your question that didn't involve the Bermuda Triangle at all. I pointed out that it's the wrong question. Science doesn't really answer questions of "is it possible". It makes testable hypotheses that attempt to explain existing observations (evidence). As such, the third version of the question is the one that science actually addresses.

 

[Bikewer]

Note that the very first "Bermuda Triangle" book, the one by Berllitz, was thoroughly discounted as being full of misinformation and falsifications.

Ships listed as sunk were found to have been sold and re-named, sinkings occurring outside the area were simply moved "in" by the author...That sort of thing.

The whole thing is, and always has been, a fabrication.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Note that the very first "Bermuda Triangle" book, the one by Berllitz, was thoroughly discounted as being full of misinformation and falsifications.

Ships listed as sunk were found to have been sold and re-named, sinkings occurring outside the area were simply moved "in" by the author...That sort of thing.

The whole thing is, and always has been, a fabrication.

And wherever Berlitz said "it was a clear day and a calm sea" you can bet it was not!

 

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

It's rogue waves.

~~ Paul