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Windows 11

The Windows start menu is hideous and seems to serve the purposes of MS more than my own. It's full of crap I don't want. Fortunately it was a simple fix to get rid of it. I also mostly use the taskbar, but still.

You'll like the new version in Windows 11 then. A search field, pinned "favourites", "recommended" which are (as far as I can make out) recent files you've worked on and a power button.
 

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You'll like the new version in Windows 11 then. A search field, pinned "favourites", "recommended" which are (as far as I can make out) recent files you've worked on and a power button.

That does look better than the current cartoonish squares, but I'll have to see it and use it before I decide anything.
 
I predict:

- It will suck or at least be no better than 10, offering little if anything of real value
- Everyone will buy it anyway just because it's newer and got to keep up with the tech crowd!
- MS will giggle in their cubicles as the money rolls in going "I know, I can't believe they fell for it again!"

Also I wonder if they will force you to create an MS account and force you to enter DOB like 10 does when you boot up for the first time, what a great feature.
 
Well guess it's time to quit Win 7 and try Win 10 now.
Are you a masochist? Be smart man, stick with 7.


I loved Windows 7, but I was able to tweak Windows 10 into a satisfactory state. The only thing that vexed me ultimately was trouble with many 16-bit applications not working anymore. I can emulate DOS applications, but I haven't figured out how to get Windows software from a certain era to run or emulate. Full Tilt Pinball, for example.
I assume you tried the compatibility options? Sometimes they work, sometimes not.
 
I assume you tried the compatibility options? Sometimes they work, sometimes not.

Yes indeed. They can be a tremendous help when they do work.

I found this that may offer some help to me:

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/enable-16-bit-application-support-windows-10/

We previously looked at using tools to troubleshoot application compatibility, which lets you modify a program to make it think it is installing on a supported version of Windows. Much older applications that pre-date Windows 95 will sometimes require a bit more work. 16-bit applications, in particular, are not natively supported on 64-bit Windows 10 because the operating system lacks a 16-bit subsystem. This can even affect 32-bit applications that utilize a 16-bit installer.
 
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Are you a masochist? Be smart man, stick with 7.


There are certain things I can't do on 7, like easily edit high speed video in Premiere. I use 10 at work and I have it setup to look like 7. It'll be fine. I think 7 was the best though. Maybe I'll run both.

I skipped Vista and 8.
 
I agree that Windows start menus have sucked horribly in recent years. I couldn't stomach the 8/10 abominations.

The seemed fine to me. Not as useful for my purposes, but by that time I'd stopped relying on them anyway, in favor of pinning my favorites to the taskbar.


My experience has been much the same. I have only spent little if any time using the start menu, so its failings or otherwise have not affected me very much.

I admit to some confusion and a tiny bit of curiosity about all the furor, but only idly.
 
I wasn't claiming any differently.

That confused me a bit. You said beta hides a multitude of sins. To me that connotes a certain viciousness and dishonesty. quadraginta makes an argument that it's essentially virtuous and honest.


I'm not sure I'd go quite that far.

Mebbe more that it could be. At the very least issuing something as a beta makes the fact that it is very much a caveat emptor situation pretty clear.
 
I predict:

- It will suck or at least be no better than 10, offering little if anything of real value
- Everyone will buy it anyway just because it's newer and got to keep up with the tech crowd!
- MS will giggle in their cubicles as the money rolls in going "I know, I can't believe they fell for it again!"

Also I wonder if they will force you to create an MS account and force you to enter DOB like 10 does when you boot up for the first time, what a great feature.
You don’t have to, but they certainly don’t make that obvious.
 
How could they have? Computers always evolve, and so must their OS.

You and Microsoft disagree :D

My guess is that the biggest driver under the hood is Intel's shift to a big.LITTLE hybrid and the requisite changes to the scheduler (previews are showing Alder Lake performing better on Windows 11, natch).

For firmware, they've been pretty open that TPM 2.0 is required.

That said, I'm not familiar enough with it, but the UI changes look like they could have been implemented as an iteration of Windows 10.
 
Hmm...

Microsoft are beyond stupid.

I'm suddenly getting a lot of crap on my laptop (Win 10) saying that there is a problem with my 'identity'.

It's a personal laptop, but I connect to my employer's Teams instance when I'm working remotely.

Microsoft are trying to merge my personal and work accounts (which would be unlawful) and is having conniption fits because I'm logging in locally on that laptop.

Note, if you accidentally trigger that, you'll find that it wants to verify your personal account by sending an email to your work account, but doesn't send the email (anywhere) because your work account isn't the email address associated with your personal account.

No doubt this is in preparation to loading Windows 11 onto the already struggling computer.

I wonder if I can run Teams on Ubuntu?

(Teams works fine with Debian, I just don't want it running on my main machine...)
 
Hmm...

Microsoft are beyond stupid.

I'm suddenly getting a lot of crap on my laptop (Win 10) saying that there is a problem with my 'identity'.

It's a personal laptop, but I connect to my employer's Teams instance when I'm working remotely.

Microsoft are trying to merge my personal and work accounts (which would be unlawful) and is having conniption fits because I'm logging in locally on that laptop.

Note, if you accidentally trigger that, you'll find that it wants to verify your personal account by sending an email to your work account, but doesn't send the email (anywhere) because your work account isn't the email address associated with your personal account.

No doubt this is in preparation to loading Windows 11 onto the already struggling computer.

I wonder if I can run Teams on Ubuntu?

(Teams works fine with Debian, I just don't want it running on my main machine...)

Our corporate laptops are completely locked down. Can't change anything on them and all installations follow the Corporate Master Plan known and understood only by a select group of basement dwellers.

Our Teams roll-out has been a Mongolian C********** since Day 1 and every single time I reboot my machine I get a message that there's a problem with my identity. Joining meetings is an ordeal survived only by combining an understanding of Chaos Theory with the resources to sacrifice goats on a regular basis.

I'm fairly unimpressed by the whole business.
 
Hmm...

Microsoft are beyond stupid.

I'm suddenly getting a lot of crap on my laptop (Win 10) saying that there is a problem with my 'identity'.

It's a personal laptop, but I connect to my employer's Teams instance when I'm working remotely.

Microsoft are trying to merge my personal and work accounts (which would be unlawful) and is having conniption fits because I'm logging in locally on that laptop.

Note, if you accidentally trigger that, you'll find that it wants to verify your personal account by sending an email to your work account, but doesn't send the email (anywhere) because your work account isn't the email address associated with your personal account.

No doubt this is in preparation to loading Windows 11 onto the already struggling computer.

I wonder if I can run Teams on Ubuntu?

(Teams works fine with Debian, I just don't want it running on my main machine...)

Mine has said that for years. I just ignore it since nothing happens if you don't do whatever it is they're asking for you to do.

I'm using a domain account though, maybe they started doing it with local accounts now too.
 
- Everyone will buy it anyway just because it's newer and got to keep up with the tech crowd!
- MS will giggle in their cubicles as the money rolls in going "I know, I can't believe they fell for it again!"

It's free.

Also I wonder if they will force you to create an MS account and force you to enter DOB like 10 does when you boot up for the first time, what a great feature.

Yes, a Microsoft account is required.
 
I am at a loss about this vehemence about not having an MS account. I have to have an account to register my expresso machine if I want the extended warranty.

There is a very simple solution for people not wanting an MS account - don't use MS software or hardware!
 
I’d say that the conclusion there should be that you shouldn’t need an account to use an expresso machine. I’d also point out that an expresso machine isn’t a data-harvester.
 
I've never regretted getting a Microsoft account. Now when my friends call me a no account bum, I can prove them wrong.
 

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