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Windows 10

eerok said:
Change your password and make it blank.
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I tried that... it won't let me leave it blank. I think it has something to do with automatically logging into the "cloud" or something? (which I don't want anyway... hell, I don't entirely understand what its purpose is) Not sure.

I didn't even set the password for the computer per se. I set it for the "account" when checking out their new browser or something -- internet related (actually, it might have been when I signed up for the update when I gave them that email and password -- prior to updating). However, it asks me for it on startup and displays my non-microsoft email for some unknown reason, like that somehow identifies me. It's nothing like what Windows 7 had for that type of security, and I would think that upon upgrading it would have kept my non-password-protected status on that particular element anyway, if that was the problem.
 
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eerok said:
It sounds like you don't use your MS account and find it annoying. In that case consider this:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-in/windows/closing-microsoft-account

I don't use an MS account myself, because I also don't use the cloud or the app store.
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rjh01 said:
Here are the instructions on how to do this http://windows.microsoft.com/en-au/windows-8/disable-remove-password
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Ah, okay. Thanks guys, that's what I was looking for. I'll probably wait a few days to consider whether I'm just some old change hating geezer, but yeah... that seems to be the problem. To be honest, not understanding some of these things is probably a bigger nuisance than the actual procedure of logging in.

I'll most likely never stop hating the public over-use of cell phones or the word "apps" though.
 
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Manopolus said:
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I'll most likely never stop hating the public over-use of cell phones or the word "apps" though.
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This topic has come up before.

Since then I ran across this discussion of the etymology of "app".

The usage predates' tablets and smartphones by quite a bit.

At least the early 80's.

It's just that personal computing was only gradually becoming popular.

The rest of the world finally caught up with the usage.

You're not being an old fuddy-duddy. You're being a new fuddy-duddy.

Or change hating geezer, as the case may be.
 
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quadraginta said:
This topic has come up before.

Since then I ran across this discussion of the etymology of "app".

The usage predates' tablets and smartphones by quite a bit.

At least the early 80's.

It's just that personal computing was only gradually becoming popular.

The rest of the world finally caught up with the usage.

You're not being an old fuddy-duddy. You're being a new fuddy-duddy.

Or change hating geezer, as the case may be.
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Hmmph.

Well, my objection is that the word "program" sort of described the process of making one a bit better, rather than putting a barrier between the end user and the process itself. I haven't been particularly thrilled over the substantial and growing layers of end-user inaccess to the nuts and bolts of their own systems. The word "app" sort of describes that distancing to me (whether rightly so or not).

I will have to admit that my actual knowledge of programming hasn't advanced much since learning some BASIC on my Apple IIe in the late 80s, but nowadays I wouldn't have full access even if I did know what I was doing. It's also getting more and more cumbersome to even understand available settings. The whole setup creates a situation where it is easy for software developers to set up a situation where consumers are betrayed by their own systems in matters of privacy, etc. Of course, we all know that is happening anyway -- but it's not quite as easy to figure out how to prevent it to the highest degree possible.
 
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Windows having applications is hardly new terminology. Do you also insist on using the term 'executable program' whenever you refer to a program that has been compiled?

By the way, what are the "buying features" in Windows 10 you mentioned earlier? And just out of curiosity, do you only backup locally?
 
uvar said:
Windows having applications is hardly new terminology. Do you also insist on using the term 'executable program' whenever you refer to a program that has been compiled?

By the way, what are the "buying features" in Windows 10 you mentioned earlier? And just out of curiosity, do you only backup locally?
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I barely even bother backing up at all. There's not much on my machine that would be tragic to lose anyway, and I don't tend to browse in high risk areas of the internet (no porn, for instance). I mostly use it for news, casual research, and entertainment. I don't even have any music on this thing. I've got some stuff I've done with graphics that I wouldn't care to lose, but no longer even have the Adobe programs that created them (had a subscription at one time). There are copies of those elsewhere though.

Even the games I've got on this thing are ones that I got sick of and don't even play any more. Their loss wouldn't bother me a bit. I'm not saying that a wiped hard drive wouldn't cause me a bit of inconvenience, but as of yet I haven't had it happen, despite having a computer of some sort since the late 80s. It wouldn't be a situation severe enough that I feel the need to worry about it anyway.

So... in short, I'd be more worried about the data in my Kindle being destroyed than any data on this computer.
 
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I upgraded last night. Only major drama was what was the product key? I tried to enter my Windows 7 key and it said it was no good. Turns out I did not need to enter one as I am doing an upgrade rather than a clean install. Just hope I am right on that.

Also lost my anti virus software without notice. Does this matter?

My C drive has more free space on it now. No idea why. And it still has old.windows on it which is a big folder. So what have I lost?
 
rjh01 said:
I upgraded last night. Only major drama was what was the product key? I tried to enter my Windows 7 key and it said it was no good. Turns out I did not need to enter one as I am doing an upgrade rather than a clean install. Just hope I am right on that.

Also lost my anti virus software without notice. Does this matter?

My C drive has more free space on it now. No idea why. And it still has old.windows on it which is a big folder. So what have I lost?
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Maybe this will help on the antivirus question -- apparently, Windows 10 comes with antivirus protection already installed. I just noticed it on my own machine after I saw your post and did a quick google.

http://www.howtogeek.com/225385/wha...r-windows-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/
 
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Finally found the time to upgrade over the weekend. Fairly smooth, although getting sound and GFX drivers sorted took a couple of restarts.

My only complaint is that pinning programs (or "apps") to the start menu from a program folder doesn't seem to do anything, and the fact that for some reason, my taskbar has decided to adopt a black background (which I don't mind) with black text, and there doesn't appear to be a straight forward way to change it.
 
Checkmite said:
I am extremely satisfied with Windows 10. I look forward to the release of the mobile version for my phone, although the current version of Windows on it is not bad in its own right.
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I've been running window 10 on my Lumia 920 for a while. Still not ready for prime time, but good enough for my main phone now.

One cool thing - yesterday I installed several android apps on it! They didn't all work properly, but the fact I could even get that far was a nice surprise, though I've been predicting it for a while.
 
I'm having annoyances with Teamviewer on Windows 10 that make me have to reboot the remote hosts regularly. One is a Win10 laptop, and the other is a Win10 tablet remoted into from another win10 laptop.

It flashes something about being unable to do a screen capture. I can't read it before the screen goes blank and flashes this message again about every two seconds.

It requires me to go to the remote hosts and restart them, which is most annoying
 
John Jones said:
I'm having annoyances with Teamviewer on Windows 10 that make me have to reboot the remote hosts regularly. One is a Win10 laptop, and the other is a Win10 tablet remoted into from another win10 laptop.

It flashes something about being unable to do a screen capture. I can't read it before the screen goes blank and flashes this message again about every two seconds.

It requires me to go to the remote hosts and restart them, which is most annoying
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I've not come across that, and I'm more or less permanently in several TV sessions at once, mostly with the remote hosts being 8.1, but a couple on 10. The message sounds like the one you get sometimes when it's switching users and the like.
 
Darat said:
Windows Defender has been built into Windows since Vista and available for older versions since I think 2006.
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Windows Defender for XP/Vista/7 is a different product than the Windows Defender in 8/8.1/10.

In XP/Vista/7 Defender is an anti-spyware program that was not an anti-virus program. The version in 8/8.1/10 is an anti-virus product with anti-spyware features that is the direct descendant of Microsoft Security Essentials for XP/Vista/7. If you install Security Essentials on XP/Vista/7 it turns off the XP/Vista/7 version of Defender as the two programs conflict.

I wish Microsoft would stop re-using the same names for different applications. The first time I hit this was with ActiveSync, originally a program for syncing a Pocket PC or HandHeld PC 2000 with a Windows desktop (1996-2007). Now ActiveSync is the Microsoft Exchange component for syncing cell phones to an Exchange server (2003-present).
 
MSE to WD was part of a decline as well. Previously MSE competed with third party solutions, but now WD is far behind.

We’ve been recommending MSE as the free antivirus to use for years because of this. It’s included by default on Windows 8 and named “Windows Defender.” This is one of the big security improvements in Windows 8 — you have an antivirus included so every Windows user has protection. It would be nice if Windows users finally didn’t have to seek out a third-party antivirus.

Over the past several years, Microsoft Security Essentials has slid in the malware detection scoring tests. AV-TEST’s 2011 annual review ranked Microsoft Security Essentials last place in protection among all the products it tested. In October 2012, Microsoft Security Essentials scored so low that it lost its AV-TEST certification. In June 2013, MSE received a zero protection score from AV-TEST — the lowest possible score. It’s also come last in other recent tests, including one by Dennis Technology Labs.

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The Microsoft Security Essentials website promises “comprehensive malware protection” and “award-winning protection,” so users would be forgiven for believing that Microsoft was committed to making MSE a capable antivirus solution. But Microsoft is now saying that MSE is only basic protection that users shouldn’t rely on.

In an interview with Dennis Protection Labs, Holly Stewart, the senior program manager of the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, said that Microsoft Security Essentials was just a “baseline” that’s designed to “always be on the bottom” of antivirus tests. She said Microsoft sees MSE as a first layer of protection and advises Windows users to use a third-party antivirus instead.
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Linky.
 
paulhutch said:
I wish Microsoft would stop re-using the same names for different applications. The first time I hit this was with ActiveSync, originally a program for syncing a Pocket PC or HandHeld PC 2000 with a Windows desktop (1996-2007). Now ActiveSync is the Microsoft Exchange component for syncing cell phones to an Exchange server (2003-present).
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I got used to referring to my personal transportation device as a horse drawn carriage. A hundred years later I'm getting baffled with this new "car" word. I blame Microsoft.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
MSE to WD was part of a decline as well. Previously MSE competed with third party solutions, but now WD is far behind.
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Linky.
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Interesting, I'd missed that. I've only used MSE and it's descendents for quite a few years now, never had a problem and it's successfully picked up a few bits of malware. The article is 2 yrs old though, I wonder where things stand in W10?
 
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