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Docker said:
Indeed. He was ordered to leave the building by his boss and he refused. Instead he climbed the towers helping fireman open doors and find people. He personally pushed 52 people out of the doors and remained until the tower collapsed. He was found under a truck. Bush declared him a national hero.
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Trully impressive. (no sarcasm)
 
Docker said:
This is the man that some sick creeps in here have been accusing of lying to get fame and money.
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Well, I don't know about anyone else... but I'm merely saying his account of what he heard at the time of the first aircraft impact has changed.

Which it has.

-Gumboot
 
gumboot said:
Well, I don't know about anyone else... but I'm merely saying his account of what he heard at the time of the first aircraft impact has changed.

Which it has.

-Gumboot
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Fair enough but some people have insinuated more.

His first account was in a time of shock. This man has no motive to change story. He genuinely feels 9/11 is a cover up and refused millions because he refused to be silenced
 
Docker said:
This is the man that some sick creeps in here have been accusing of lying to get fame and money.

Hang your heads in shame
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Name one person who has made that accusation, or retract it.

Oh, and why do you constantly lie, Docker? Is it that you cannot, or will not, stop?
 
Gravy stop wasting your time. Your on ignore. Get used to the fact that while i'm here you don't control these forums. I will never be one of your stepfor wives style puppets.
 
Docker said:
Gravy stop wasting your time. Your on ignore. Get used to the fact that while i'm here you don't control these forums. I will never be one of your stepfor wives style puppets.
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I guess 'Ignore" isn't working too well.

(Psst! I know when you're checking my posts, Docker. And it's "Stepford.")
 
Docker said:
Gravy stop wasting your time. Your on ignore. Get used to the fact that while i'm here you don't control these forums. I will never be one of your stepfor wives style puppets.
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What's with this hatred of Gravy? I mean it seems that if someone doesn't agree with your line of thinking, after a few post you start accusing them of getting all of their info from Gravy and such.
 
Redtail said:
What's with this hatred of Gravy? I mean it seems that if someone doesn't agree with your line of thinking, after a few post you start accusing them of getting all of their info from Gravy and such.
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I was told that was the case before I joined this forum. I don't hate gravy, I don't know the man. I just refuse to be bullied by him.
 
Docker said:
Fair enough but some people have insinuated more.

His first account was in a time of shock.
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You keep making this claim. It wasn't.


Docker said:
This man has no motive to change story. He genuinely feels 9/11 is a cover up and refused millions because he refused to be silenced
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Are you aware of "memory bias" and "false memory"?

If a person determines that a certain event happened a certain way, they will often subconsciously alter their memory of that event to better reflect their interpretation.

In other words, because he believes it was an inside job, it is highly likely he has subconsciously altered his memory of that event to include explosions when there were none.

This does not mean he is "evil" or "dishonest". He wouldn't even know that this has happened, and he would genuinely believe his current memory was ALWAYS his memory of the event.

This is a very well documented and established phenomenon.

Personally, I don't take his account of an explosion to bear much weight. What, to me, bears FAR MORE weight is his account of what he saw when he went to investigate that sound.

His account of the blown elevator, skin hanging off arms, white smoke, etc is completely in keeping with an explosion caused by ignited jet fuel which had poured down elevator shafts. It is NOT in keeping with a bomb (for example, a bomb capable of blowing elevator doors outwards, away from the elevator car, would obliterate all remains of anyone inside the elevator car, not leave survivors bearing flash burns).

-Gumboot
 
gumboot said:
The human ear is excellent at determining the direction of sound on the horizontal axis, but appalling at determining it on the vertical axis.
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The evidence I have collected indicates otherwise.

What more would you have me say?
 
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