william rodriguez

[Docker]

Have a read about thermobaric weapons...



-Gumboot

So you agree it was a bomb. Thanks.

 

[Garb]

how does it? combined with the rubble and the disappearing walls, jet fuel couldnt have done it.

To a 400 pound press? I beg to differ.

If a simple HE grenade can destroy a 175 pound(est.) washine machine (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jhKKJ4UQ3_A), I would believe an incredibly large jet fuel explosion can take out a 400 pound press.

 

[gumboot]

ok I have read that. Now tell me how jet fuels make walls disappear.

When aerosized fuel ignites it creates an extremely high pressure shock wave.

Also, why are people insinuating that rodriguez changed his story?

He initially described the first noise he heard as a low rumble like moving furniture. It was only later that he said it was a short sharp sound like an explosion.

-Gumboot

 

[Docker]

You read all the accounts in the second link in the last five minutes?

Yes I speed read. Answer my question instead of sidestepping.

 

[Arus808]

So you agree it was a bomb. Thanks.

great way to quote mine, typical ct tactic.
great way to make someone comment on something other than what he was trying to point out to you and use that to prove something else, typical ct tactic

boy, you must have read a CTer bible on how to act on forums.

 

[gumboot]

Exactly, so if he thought it was a car it must have smelled like petrol.

Do you know what the difference is between petroleum and kerosene?

They don't smell the same, for starters...

-Gumboot

 

[Docker]

When aerosized fuel ignites it creates an extremely high pressure shock wave.




He initially described the first noise he heard as a low rumble like moving furniture. It was only later that he said it was a short sharp sound like an explosion.

-Gumboot

Source for your shock wave assertion?

Rodriguez first testimony was in the heat of the moment. Debunkers always say that first hand accounts arent the best. He may well have been in shock when he made the original quote.

 

[Arus808]

Yes I speed read. Answer my question instead of sidestepping.

If you did read it, then you would have had your answer. He isn't sidestepping. YOU are simply ignoring the answer.

 

[gumboot]

So you agree it was a bomb. Thanks.

You don't know what a thermobaric weapon is do you?

-Gumboot

 

[Docker]

Do you know what the difference is between petroleum and kerosene?

They don't smell the same, for starters...

-Gumboot

Exactly my point, so the fact he said car means it more likely smelled of petrol.

 

[Garb]

Source for your shock wave assertion?

Rodriguez first testimony was in the heat of the moment. Debunkers always say that first hand accounts arent the best. He may well have been in shock when he made the original quote.

The fact that he even described it was like moving furniture says nothing to you? How can that come from an explosion?

 

[Gravy]

Yes I speed read. Answer my question instead of sidestepping.

No, I don't believe that you speed read. If you did, and could comprehend what you read, you'd have the answer to your question.

Now, Docker, please summarize the accounts I provided, particularly those from the lobby and basement levels.

 

[Docker]

To a 400 pound press? I beg to differ.

If a simple HE grenade can destroy a 175 pound(est.) washine machine (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jhKKJ4UQ3_A), I would believe an incredibly large jet fuel explosion can take out a 400 pound press.

Your comparing grenades and jet fuel? Find me an example of jet fuel creating rubble. If you cant then admit your wrong.

 

[gumboot]

Source for your shock wave assertion?

I have already given you a link to a wikipedia article on thermobaric weapons. I'm not going to hold your hand like a baby. There is an excellent video on YouTube however that explains Thermobaric weapons and has an incredible high-speed piece of film footage recording a fuel air explosive in action.

Rodriguez first testimony was in the heat of the moment. Debunkers always say that first hand accounts arent the best. He may well have been in shock when he made the original quote.

No, he wasn't. It was given some time after the event.

-Gumboot

 

[Docker]

No, I don't believe that you speed read. If you did, and could comprehend what you read, you'd have the answer to your question.

Now, Docker, please summarize the accounts I provided, particularly those from the lobby and basement levels.

Answer my questions please.

 

[Garb]

Your comparing grenades and jet fuel? Find me an example of jet fuel creating rubble. If you cant then admit your wrong.

Yes. Grenades have less of a destructive force. Do you not understand it?

And any eplosion can create rubble. At least any large enough explosion. An explosion from jet fuel is no exception.

 

[Bell]

Yes I speed read. Answer my question instead of sidestepping.

Now, where have I seen those replies before? Mmm...
Killtown, that you?

 

[gumboot]

Exactly my point, so the fact he said car means it more likely smelled of petrol.

No, it doesn't. It means he was trying to find a logical explanation for where the smell came from. One would not expect him to think "Oh, well I guess a jet aircraft just smashed into the building".

He was very specific. He said "white smoke" and "kerosene". These are very specific details, and in keeping with the explosion being caused by kerosene (kerosene will produce white smoke, petroleum won't).

-Gumboot

 

[Gravy]

Answer my questions please.

I'm not here to repeat myself. I've done my homework. If you don't want to read all the eyewitness accounts that I compiled, the burden of ignorance is on you.

P.s. you might want to look into what the elevator shaft walls were made of.

 

[Arus808]

And any eplosion can create rubble. At least any large enough explosion. An explosion from jet fuel is no exception.

who needs an explosion? The impact of two very heavy objects can create rubble easily. Every watch someone demo a building with that big ball tied to a crane? (dang what is that thing called?)