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Merged why the release of names associated with Epstein mean little to absolutely nothing.

arthwollipot said:
Mr Mountbatten-Windsor asked for "inappropriate friends".

www.theguardian.com

Epstein files appear to show Andrew asking Ghislaine Maxwell for ‘inappropriate friends’

Documents give further insight into former royal’s ties to sex offender and raise fresh questions for Donald Trump
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Maxwell responded a day later, saying: “So sorry to disappoint you. However, the truth must be told. I have only been able to find appropriate friends.”
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God, I've heard more inappropriate jokes in high school.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
It's unconfirmed, but it's hardly mysterious. Stinky owned a beauty pageant for underage teens while he was besties with a sex-trafficking pedophile. How much overlap does that venn diagram need to have before it's beyond the pale even for the magats?

Oh hey... one of the released but then redacted oopsies in the Epstein files is a letter from days before his death to another pedophile directly implicating "our president" in their ring:
https://bsky.app/profile/ashtonpittman.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3man3anui4s2u
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Totally fake, as confirmed by DAG Blanche.

The fake letter to Nasser has the wrong date, wrong prisons, and wrong writing style. Epstein died on August 9 of that year, for ◊◊◊◊◊ sake. Most of the Epstein myth looks like fan-fiction from pedo-panicked conspiracy theorists who seem to want the country to be run by pedophiles at this point.

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coffeezilla put out a video covering some of the files they got access to, seemingly by a stupid mistake on their part. it appears there were co conspirators that weren't either maxwell or victims referenced in these documents, and on top of that their names have been redacted from the files. directly contradicting many of the government's previous statements on these files
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So your go-to source to make sense of the Epstein files are clueless YouTube obsessives. "Previously we did not know how many co-conspirators were suspected of or...I'm not aware of anything like that". OF COURSE :rolleyes: of course.

Take the wealthy man in Ohio. There is a very very good reason these alleged leads were never pursued...they didn't find any evidence of wrongdoing by Les Wexner and the "10 co-conspirators" likely included people from Epstein's case in Palm Beach. They were given immunity according to the NPA, remember?

Of course the federal government reneged on that deal to go after Ghislaine Maxwell, but the rest remained untouched and presumably the authorities dropped the decision to pursue them.
 
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Venom said:
So your go-to source to make sense of the Epstein files are clueless YouTube obsessives. "Previously we did not know how many co-conspirators were suspected of or...I'm not aware of anything like that". OF COURSE :rolleyes: of course.

Take the wealthy man in Ohio. There is a very very good reason these alleged leads were never pursued...they didn't find any evidence of wrongdoing by Les Wexner and the "10 co-conspirators" likely included people from Epstein's case in Palm Beach. They were given immunity according to the NPA, remember?

Of course the federal government reneged on that deal to go after Ghislaine Maxwell, but the rest remained untouched and presumably the authorities dropped the decision to pursue them.
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i don't know. i think a lot of people were surprised that the fbi was sending emails naming recurring figure that lied a bunch of times about his involvement with epstein les wexner as a co conspirator discussing grand jury subpoenas only a month before epstein died. to me, it sounds like they were pursuing some leads there and they didn't find any evidence because they stopped looking when epstein died.

anyway, interpret it how you want, we'll see how this no wrong doing by les wexner thing pans out. i don't really have the confidence in him that you do. they illegally redacted large parts of what was released and have millions of more documents to go, i'll wait and see.
 
arthwollipot said:
You know who's not in the Epstein files?

Undocumented immigrants.
Trans people.
Drag queens.
People who write books and create art with LGBTQ+ content.

It's rich, powerful, and mostly white men.

They want you to blame the "others" so you won't blame them.
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Yeah, and Putin's not in the Epstein files either, is he? Nor is Kim Jong-un and Bashar al-Assad. I don't see the Ayatalloah Al Khameini in there either. And what about Hitler, huh?

Maybe "They" want you to ...erm...blame the "others" or something... so you won't blame "Them".
 
dirtywick said:
i don't know. i think a lot of people were surprised that the fbi was sending emails naming recurring figure that lied a bunch of times about his involvement with epstein les wexner as a co conspirator discussing grand jury subpoenas only a month before epstein died. to me, it sounds like they were pursuing some leads there and they didn't find any evidence because they stopped looking when epstein died.
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Oh they never stopped looking. They tried every excuse to get SOMEBODY after Epstein's death, no matter how weak the evidence.

dirtywick said:
anyway, interpret it how you want, we'll see how this no wrong doing by les wexner thing pans out. i don't really have the confidence in him that you do. they illegally redacted large parts of what was released and have millions of more documents to go, i'll wait and see.
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Don't get your hopes up. Private plaintiffs lawyers have the completely legal authority to decide what we get to see.
 
dirtywick said:
trump flew on private jet many times with maxwell, epstein, and victims, contradicting more of his previous claims
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Your source does not claim Trump flew with any victims. Where are you getting that from?
 
Ziggurat said:
Your source does not claim Trump flew with any victims. Where are you getting that from?
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On one flight described in the newly released records, the only three passengers were Epstein, Trump and a 20-year-old woman whose name was redacted. "On two other flights, two of the passengers, respectively, were women who would be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case," the document stated.
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people.com

Trump Yelled 'My Friends Will Get Hurt' at Marjorie Taylor Greene for Threatening to Name Epstein Abusers, She Claims

Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene is offering more details about her falling out with President Donald Trump, saying the final straw revolved around her push for more government transparency surrounding sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's crimes
people.com people.com

mtg on a conversation with trump over the epstein files

Greene claimed that when she expressed confusion to Trump on the call over his resistance to outing Epstein's potential conspirators, the president told her, "My friends will get hurt."
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long article detailing alan dershowitz background and relationship with epstein.

Epstein could be a loyal supporter. Early in their relationship, he contacted Orin Kramer, the founder of the hedge fund Boston Provident, and said that he wanted to invest several hundred thousand dollars from Dershowitz. It was a small sum for Kramer’s fund, but Epstein, who had recently invested thirty million dollars in the fund, was a significant client. Kramer agreed to take Dershowitz’s investment. The next year, after the fund sustained enormous losses, Epstein contacted him again and said, “One of us is going to make Alan whole—and if I have to do it, that is an outcome you will regret.” Kramer was taken aback; Dershowitz had signed papers, which are standard among hedge-fund investors, acknowledging that his money was at significant risk. Ultimately, though, he agreed that he would personally restore Dershowitz’s investment if Epstein left the remainder of the money he controlled in the fund. (Dershowitz says that he never heard that Epstein had made this call, and that he understood Kramer had restored his money because he felt a “moral obligation.”)
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this particular story was confirmed in the nytimes article into epstein’s finances and eventually a lot of detail about giuffre

In December, 2014, Giuffre set up a foundation, Victims Refuse Silence, to help survivors of sexual abuse and trafficking. The same month, she filed a motion to join the suit. She claimed that Epstein had abused her, and had trafficked her to powerful friends. She named three: Jean-Luc Brunel, a modelling agent; Prince Andrew; and Alan Dershowitz.
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so far she’s batting 2 out of 3
 
dirtywick said:

long article detailing alan dershowitz background and relationship with epstein.



this particular story was confirmed in the nytimes article into epstein’s finances and eventually a lot of detail about giuffre



so far she’s batting 2 out of 3
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And if anybody believes Derschowitz's story about why he thought the money was returned to him, then I've a lovely bridge in Manhattan that I'd like to discuss selling to them.
 
dirtywick said:
well it’s actually 5 million pages they still need to review, and the government is seeking 400 lawyers to help.
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They tried a simple find-and-replace "Trump" to "Clinton" but ran into the problem that there were so many references to "the orange turd" and "that creep from Home Alone 2" that they'll have to go through each line manually anyway.
 
is there a human on earth that took more photos and sent more emails than jeffrey epstein?

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i’m sure they’re not all photos and emails. large amounts are probably financial paperwork detailing his various frauds. major part of the story we’re only starting to learn about
 
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wsj claims epstein was funneled girls through mar a lago for years, that epstein had an account despite not being a member. requests private sessions and asked for sex during them. maxwell used the spa as a recruiting source for finding girls who wanted side work. there were concerns among staff and even trump’s wife at the time. it ended when a girl filed a formal written complaint. no police involvement until years later when he had been accused of raping a 14 year old from a local high school in an unrelated matter
 
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