Why should I not hate God?

Someday you guys are going to grok what God is. Then, you will kick yourself.
 
Then proceed to kick yourself once for each post you have.
 
IFI believed in such a god OR got absolute proof it existed I would have to make every reasonable effort to hunt it down and kill it.

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I wonder if you can confidently predict what a believer's world view would be in this case.

I'm not predicting every believer's world view, but I've run across the mindset quite a bit, that atheists are atheists because they're angry at God. Of course some are, but I don't think it's the majority.

It's not really unusual, psychologically, for people to prefer being hated to being ignored or, in this case, for some theists to believe that what they care about is hated rather than ignored or not taken seriously.

It's not that I expect atheists or anyone else to be angry at God - only that I've experienced anger that can't really be directed at anything more specific than "the universe." Sometimes I talk to this entity, sometimes I yell at it.

When non-theists are angry is it always at something tangible?

Oh, definitely, I think non-theists have the same kinds of frustration/anger at the universe, life, etc. It's just that they don't personify it as a sentient force deliberately trying to harm them or refusing to help them.

Those vague feelings of anger at bad luck, the unfairness of the universe, or whatever, that all humans feel occasionally, might actually be one of the things which helped spur the development of religion.

Since humans are always seeking explanations and causes and looking for patterns, it can feel better to make up a specific cause, than to accept that some bad things happen randomly. Being able to pray about unsolveable problems gives back a sense of control, and imagining bad people being punished eventually, gives a sense of fairness and order. The way we're hard-wired to try to solve problems and understand things, it's actually harder, in my opinion, to accept randomness or "bad luck" than to make up and believe in a relatively straightforward explanation and solution.
 
Satan cannot usurp God. That was the hubristic notion that led to his fall. The creation can never surpass the Creator.

I've read every bitter, hate-filled post up to this point, and I say this to you all:

God loves you.

He loves His children so much that He Himself consented to take form on Earth, live as a mortal man, and die an entirely UNdeserved death to heal the breach that we fallen humans created by our own disobedience. He stands ready to welcome each of you back into His family even as I type this.

It's up to you to put aside hate, and pride, and rebellion and accept that freely offered Gift.

If any of you wind up in Hell, it will be entirely by your choice. Even Satan will have to admit his own guilt at the Final Day, and proclaim the Judgement of God to be Righteous and True.

Cool Story bro.
 
If I were to accept that everything in The Bible is true why should I not hate the abusive, tyrannical, sociopathic, narcissistic psychopath the God portrayed within clearly is? Why should I not do everything in my power to help anyone or anything that would oppose that brutal, monstrous, blood thirsty Sky Daddy?


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Looks like you've got the point even earlier than Templeton.

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If I entertain the hypothetical situation that there exists a god, I can't picture it as anything other than a giant, goofy, imbecile, that has little control over what it does, and mostly screws up what good it tries to do not unlike Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm but without comedic or entertainment value. And I picture it drooling a lot.

What a relief that there is no god.
 
If I entertain the hypothetical situation that there exists a god, I can't picture it as anything other than a giant, goofy, imbecile, that has little control over what it does, and mostly screws up what good it tries to do not unlike Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm but without comedic or entertainment value. And I picture it drooling a lot.

What a relief that there is no god.

I like this. The Schmuck God. I have sometimes thought that Larry David being hailed as "King of The Jews" would make an amusing episode of Curb.
 
I like this. The Schmuck God. I have sometimes thought that Larry David being hailed as "King of The Jews" would make an amusing episode of Curb.


Great idea for an episode, I'm laughing just thinking about how such an episode might go.
 
God loves you.

He loves His children so much that He Himself consented to take form on Earth, live as a mortal man, and die an entirely UNdeserved death to heal the breach that we fallen humans created by our own disobedience. He stands ready to welcome each of you back into His family even as I type this.
You do not realize that to anyone who does not already believe your fairly tale, this makes your God sound like a total lunatic? If he really wanted to forgive and welcome humans, why couldn't he simply forgive them, and skip all the pain?

Never mind the "I love you so much that you will be tormented for eternity unless you worship me" bit. Sounds really loving to me. Not.
 
Someday you guys are going to grok what God is. Then, you will kick yourself.


Buddhists grok God as compassion. And when one bases their decisions on compassion, that leads to wisdom.

All that other stuff ... eternal, omniscient, omnipotent, creator, etc .... meh.
 
Grok, what a stupid word! A silly word from a silly novel.

I agree I don't like the word either. It sounds like something one does after drinking too much, "Quick, help me to the porcelain god we need to grok each other!"
 
I agree I don't like the word either. It sounds like something one does after drinking too much, "Quick, help me to the porcelain god we need to grok each other!"

The woos love the word. It's meaningless so it fits in well with mysticism.
 

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