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Why don't Atheists run amok?

Captain Obvious said:
No, that's where partially Christian America and her partially Christian allies attacked a German army led by a political administration inspired and largely fanaticised by materialistic social Darwinist ideas such as survival of the fittest, racial superiority/inferiority, idealisation of a master race, application of materialistic purely biological standards for judging the value of the human being..etc.. compared to that, most allies on D-Day were rather wonderfully Church of England.
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1/ Learn the way of the period (.)

2/ None of your bloated sentence turns christian Germany into atheists.
 
In response to the OP, I'm just going to post the entire text of The Stranger. So as not to run afoul of the MA, I'll be doing it ten words at a time.

"Mother died today. Or, maybe, yesterday; I can't be sure."
 
Two posts trying to rewrite history, I see.

Tricky said:
Sorry, wrong. It not only mentions people with no religion (atheists) but also people with religion (theists). It is disingenuous to pretend that this thread is not a discussion of the role of religion in morality.
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Theism and religion are not the same thing in any sense whatsoever.
If that were true, then my belief I lived in London and that I wanted to get to a place I believed in called Manchester would be the same thing as an approach from a second hand car dealer to sell me a particular model of car to get me there.


gph said:
1/ Learn the way of the period (.)

2/ None of your bloated sentence turns christian Germany into atheists.
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You very easily ignore uncomfortable truths for your own self-delusory purposes.
(I did my best to keep that sentence short for you, but sorry for that one word with five syllables and those two words joined by a hyphen.)
 
The first question is really two separate issues. That there is no god or gods is not the same as there is no rules or consequences to life. Even without gods you still have a moral obligation to your heard. In this case the rest of the human species. If you break these heard rules you are cast out of heard and most live in solitude (prison).

Good and bad er merely subject terms and they change over time. What was considered perfectly okay 100 years ago, might be considered evil today. One such good example is slavery. For most of humans existence slavery was not considered an evil thing, but today we can hardly think of something more morally wrong than enslaving other people.

Theist inherited morals from atheists if you would, as our far off ancestors was not theists in the sense that we think of today and they are the first to find out that killing your own species is a bad move and that when everyone is feeling good and safe we all have a better life. Theist took these ideas and incorporated them into their different religions. Problem with this is of course that morals keeping evolving after the theist wrote down the morals of the day in their books and as such the morals in their books got outdated over time.
 
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Tricky said:
Sorry, wrong. It not only mentions people with no religion (atheists) but also people with religion (theists). It is disingenuous to pretend that this thread is not a discussion of the role of religion in morality.
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Psssst . . . many Theists don't like to be associated with religions.

Captain Obvious said:
Theism and religion are not the same thing in any sense whatsoever.
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I told you so.
 
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ynot said:
"and elsewhere"
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Captain Obvious said:
The first half of the 20th Century was a great experiment in living true to atheist, materialistic morality, and much amok was run. Finally the fanatics were beaten back on Omaha beach and elsewhere.
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Ok, you've lost me. As I understand history the allies didn't beat back the Russians on Omaha or elsewhere.
 
Captain Obvious said:
You very easily ignore uncomfortable truths for your own self-delusory purposes.
(I did my best to keep that sentence short for you, but sorry for that one word with five syllables and those two words joined by a hyphen.)
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So you have nothing? Where is your evidence for this glorious attack on atheism during WW2?
 
gph said:
Ok, you've lost me. As I understand history the allies didn't beat back the Russians on Omaha or elsewhere.
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No, but the Russians beat back the Germans (the fanatics) elsewhere.
 
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Captain Obvious said:
Theism and religion are not the same thing in any sense whatsoever.
If that were true, then my belief I lived in London and that I wanted to get to a place I believed in called Manchester would be the same thing as an approach from a second hand car dealer to sell me a particular model of car to get me there.
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Was anyone able to parse the above sentence?
 
gph said:
Ok, you've lost me. As I understand history the allies didn't beat back the Russians on Omaha or elsewhere.
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The victory of the western allies exposed the abhorrence of, and put an end to, the social Darwinist branch of materialist fanaticism - practiced by the powers that were in Germany from 1933-1945 - that led to Auschwitz and the like.
Of course, the other materialist fanatics in the east were still there, and continued running their own amok for some decades.

In contrast, if there was any 'fanaticism' on the part of the western allies it was probably just your common or garden capitalism + oligarchy, which made little or no comment on the human condition / spirituality etc.
More a case (as now) of fat old guys wanting to be as rich as they can so they can **** as many beautiful young women as possible before they die.
See Berlusconi.
 
Captain Obvious said:
The victory of the western allies and the largely Atheistic Russians exposed the abhorrence of, and put an end to, the social Darwinist branch of materialist fanaticism - practiced by the powers that were in Germany from 1933-1945 - that led to Auschwitz and the like.
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Fixed that for you.
 
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