White Supremacists for McCain

[Oliver]

Now they come out of the dark to "join" McCain's campaign:

More evidence the fringe right is using Obama resentment for its political gain.

On Wednesday, I reported for The Daily Beast that key leaders of the white supremacist movement are seeking new opportunities to infiltrate and influence the political mainstream, particularly within the Republican base. *snip* In the video, an unidentified staffer from one of the country’s most popular white supremacist radio programs, The Political Cesspool, is seen promoting his show’s website at an October 13 rally for Sarah Palin in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Source

And another interesting Story is about this Florida GOP Chair sending
out racist Anti-Obama e-mails:

The head of the Hillsborough GOP, David Storck, distributed an email from a Republican Party volunteer saying the voters are a threat.

That's because, as the volunteer says in the email, he sees "car loads of black Obama supporters coming from the inner city to cast their votes for Obama."
It goes on to say, "This is their chance to get a black president and they seem to care little the he is at minimum a socialist and probably Marxist in his core beliefs." The Republican volunteer says that is because, "After all he is black- no experience or accomplishments but he is black." Read on...
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[pingnak]

Well... it's not like they'd be for Obama.

 

[Madalch]

Is it a surprise that racists wouldn't like Obama?

That's like reporting that the German government has not decided to make Swahili the official language of Niedersachsen.

 

[Thunder]

Lets be honest. There are some Americans who, as they see it would rather have a dumb woman then a "ni--er" as President.

 

[Oliver]

Well... it's not like they'd be for Obama.

That's self-explaining. But even if McCain certainly is the lesser of
two evils for those folks, it's interesting to follow this trend - especially
once Obama is president.

I suspect that we will hear much more about it in the future - because
the greatest fear for racists most probably would be that a successful
Obama-Presidency would be a slap into those peoples faces since it
would change the whole climate regarding the acceptance of black
people in society, even in the highest offices.

 

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

The only interesting thing I find about this is how vocal they're being not that they'd rather vote for McCain over Obama.

 

[tomwaits]

OK Oliver, we get it. You don't like McCain. How about you contribute something meaningful instead of making threads along the lines of "FAMOUS CHILD RAPIST VOTING FOR MCCAIN!"

 

[jj]

So, any idea where these white supremicists will be guarding voting stations on next Tuesday?

Given the deliberately divisive, us vs. "the unamerican" rhetoric from Lord and Lady MacBeth (err, McPalin), I would guess that white supremicists thought that they'd called for the final rebellion, or whatever they call it.

 

[MattusMaximus]

I've been wondering about this very thing lately. I've been speculating that if (when) Obama wins next week, we could actually see an uptick in overt racist behavior in this country as a kind of backlash. And I worry that such views could start to subtly infiltrate their way into the mainstream political process.

I worry this could happen in two ways... the first was mentioned in the OP. I envision the second as a kind of 'unintended consequence' of most black politicians being Democrats. There were some high-profile black Republicans in the federal government over the last few years, but there seem to be fewer now, and I suspect in the next four years there will be even fewer. Because of Obama's success, I think the vast, vast majority of black politicians will go for the Democrats, much more than we currently see.

An unintended consequence of this could be a kind of feedback loop envisioned by the OP. The white supremacists use the "Obama rallying even more blacks to the Dems" as an argument for the GOP being the "white party", and so on...

Now, it is my hope that there are just too many decent-minded Republicans who will see through such shenanigans and kick these jerks to the curb. But I am concerned that a fractured, desperate, and angry GOP egged on by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin could start to grasp at straws.

We'll see what happens. One thing's for sure, it definitely won't be boring.

 

[DavidJames]

I've been wondering about this very thing lately. I've been speculating that if (when) Obama wins next week, we could actually see an uptick in overt racist behavior in this country as a kind of backlash. And I worry that such views could start to subtly infiltrate their way into the mainstream political process.

I worry this could happen in two ways... the first was mentioned in the OP. I envision the second as a kind of 'unintended consequence' of most black politicians being Democrats. There were some high-profile black Republicans in the federal government over the last few years, but there seem to be fewer now, and I suspect in the next four years there will be even fewer. Because of Obama's success, I think the vast, vast majority of black politicians will go for the Democrats, much more than we currently see.

An unintended consequence of this could be a kind of feedback loop envisioned by the OP. The white supremacists use the "Obama rallying even more blacks to the Dems" as an argument for the GOP being the "white party", and so on...

Now, it is my hope that there are just too many decent-minded Republicans who will see through such shenanigans and kick these jerks to the curb. But I am concerned that a fractured, desperate, and angry GOP egged on by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin could start to grasp at straws.

We'll see what happens. One thing's for sure, it definitely won't be boring.

I think the tone will largely depend on how things are going. The more problems there are (or perceived) the less likely (IMO) race will come into play as the Rush/Hannity Crowd (RHC) be able to beat their drum on the issues.

If things are going well, you know the RHC will need something to stir the pot and keep their ratings up, we might see your concerns played out.

 

[Wangler]

I suspect that we will hear much more about it in the future - because
the greatest fear for racists most probably would be that a successful
Obama-Presidency would be a slap into those peoples faces since it
would change the whole climate regarding the acceptance of black
people in society, even in the highest offices.

Perhaps a Obama Presidency would change the whole climate...perhaps.

We've had a female and male African American Secretaries of State, and I'm not sure that has had much of an impact.

 

[MattusMaximus]

I'm not so sure about that. If things get uglier, economically speaking, there are going to be a lot of people out there with a lot of anger & frustration. And opportunistic scumbags will take advantage of that disillusionment to push some pretty crazy ideologies. Just think about what happened in Germany after the Treaty of Versailles helped set up a situation which destroyed the German economy... the rise of the Nazi party.

I'm not saying that's going to happen here, just that we'd be foolish to believe that it couldn't happen here.

 

[DavidJames]

I'm not so sure about that. If things get uglier, economically speaking, there are going to be a lot of people out there with a lot of anger & frustration. And opportunistic scumbags will take advantage of that disillusionment to push some pretty crazy ideologies. Just think about what happened in Germany after the Treaty of Versailles helped set up a situation which destroyed the German economy... the rise of the Nazi party.

I'm not saying that's going to happen here, just that we'd be foolish to believe that it couldn't happen here.

I thought I was the cynical one - Yeah, I guess you could have people not only blaming the other party, but maybe even the other race.

 

[MattusMaximus]

I thought I was the cynical one - Yeah, I guess you could have people not only blaming the other party, but maybe even the other race.

You can count on that happening, as it already has happened. The only real question is how many people will engage in this sort of lunacy and will it become mainstreamed to a certain degree in the political process?

 

[bozothedeathmachine]

Neither the campaigns nor the candidates can stop group X from supporting them. Now it the campaign were catering to these people, that's another thing. Otherwise it's a non-issue.

 

[Pardalis]

I knew it wouldn't take long before Oliver went ahead and blatantly equates the Republican party with Nazis.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127398

No need for innuendos anymore, he just goes out and says it now clearly.

 

[Oliver]

I knew it wouldn't take long before Oliver went ahead and blatantly equates the Republican party with Nazis.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127398

No need for innuendos anymore, he just goes out and says it now clearly.

Ehm, if Obama would run for the Repubs, it would be the other
way around. What's your point, Goury?

 

[gtc]

I envision the second as a kind of 'unintended consequence' of most black politicians being Democrats.

Powell and Rice held senior positions in politics without creating major issues. The white supremacists won't be happy with Obama but its not like they were happy with the GOP either.

 

[uk_dave]

Well... it's not like they'd be for Obama.

uh huh........

In an informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size--limited to four white supremacists and one black nationalist--but just because it wouldn’t fly with Gallup doesn’t mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a 46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man.

[snip]

Tom Metzger

Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance
Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists
Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism

Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera’s show in 1988 when Rivera’s nose was broken in a brawl.

".............. but McCain would be much worse. He’s a warmonger. He’s a scary, scary person--more dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black racists."

Ron Edwards

Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America
Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses
Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants

Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups by allowing non-Christians to join.

"I don’t like McCain, but he’s the only one I can vote for. He’s against a lot of the things that I’m for. I’m afraid that he’s going to mess with gun laws. But I’m going Republican and I talked to my guys and most of them are voting for McCain too."

Erich Gliebe

Who: Chairman, National Alliance
Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky
Dislikes: Integration, Jewish-controlled media

Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the nickname, "The Aryan Barbarian."

"......... I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He’s a very intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he’s not black enough."

Rocky Suhayda

Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party
Likes: Hitler, white people
Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations

Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: "If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere."

"White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the negro. "

Yahanna

Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical Knowledge
Likes: Segregation
Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture, Muslims, Christians, Martin Luther King Jr.

Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C. spurred changes in the local noise ordinance.

"He’s going to have to harm black people to make white people satisfied that he’s not Reverend Wright’s boy. The disappointment we’re going to suffer from him is going to set us back another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better shot for black people."

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/racists-support-obama-061308

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[MaGZ]

I would actually prefer McCain over Obama. An Obama presidency would mean a Communist takeover of America not just a Black President. I’m not sure these guys mentioned above get it.