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Which Linux distro?

jimlintott said:


If you are going to use Linux I suggest you aquaint yourself with the command line. It is exceptionally powerful and easy.

Would you know where I could find a sort of manual on Linux commands for the command line? The only reason I'm not comfortable with is that I have absolutely no idea what to type in. :)

Actually a linux manual would greatly help, one that doesn't assume you know how to do anything. I've read some guides online but they all seem to assume you already are familiar with how to do some things. And I'm limited in the number of Linux distributions I can install and have work. I won't get into it, but it seems most people with my model number laptop have a lot of trouble. Newer models don't. If only'd I'd waited a couple of months to get it. *sigh*

*edit*
actually, I looked on a board and it seems people with my laptop have been having success with mandrake 9.2 Time to d/l it, I guess.
 
shanek said:


I just thought I'd point out that there's absolutely no reason why you can't install rpm on a debian box.

There is no reason not to but there really isn't a point. I prefer Debian for apps like request tracker and for good sendmail servers. Getting sendmail + spam filtering + antivirus working on debian is fairly simple due to some newer debian packages that auto-integrate fprot and spamassasin.

The who point of debian to me is the package granularity and the size of the archive. If you want to run a request tracker system and do away with expensive call tracking solutions, apt-get on debian is your friend. Mind you, apt just installs the packages but configuring request tracker requires a little dba work and some text file editing. However, getting everything installed in a sane way on debian is easiest since all the modules are in the archive.

Why install rpm? To install a few rpm binaries? If you do that, the dependencies wont be tracked in the debian database. Just use alien.
 
corplinx said:
The who point of debian to me is the package granularity and the size of the archive. If you want to run a request tracker system and do away with expensive call tracking solutions, apt-get on debian is your friend. Mind you, apt just installs the packages but configuring request tracker requires a little dba work and some text file editing.

And therein lies the difference: the rpm packages can configure themselves to your system; .debs can't do that. And again, there is an apt-rpm.

To install a few rpm binaries? If you do that, the dependencies wont be tracked in the debian database.

Unless you use apt-rpm.
 
Other posters have mentioned Suse, Mandrake, Debian, Mandrake - and they're all fine distributions if you want a working machine.

If you want to get under the hood a little, take a look at Gentoo. It's different (no binaries: everything gets built right on your PC from source) and is considered to be an enthusiasts distro.
 
Thumbo said:

If you want to get under the hood a little, take a look at Gentoo. It's different (no binaries: everything gets built right on your PC from source) and is considered to be an enthusiasts distro.

Yeah, I was an early Gentoo adopter. Then I found a girlfriend and had to go back to redhat due to the demands of a normal sex life.

Kidding aside, gentoo is fun for a week or two for most people and some people even wind up using it as their primary distro.

Metalog or syslog? Gentoo was the first distro to make me ponder that conundrum.
 
tygirwulf said:


Would you know where I could find a sort of manual on Linux commands for the command line? The only reason I'm not comfortable with is that I have absolutely no idea what to type in. :)

Actually a linux manual would greatly help, one that doesn't assume you know how to do anything. I've read some guides online but they all seem to assume you already are familiar with how to do some things.

I used to teach an Introduction to Linux course. I developed a manual for the course (Powerpoint slides). If you want, I can forward the presentation stuff on to you (and anyone interested).
 
Yes, Segnosaur, I would be quite interested in taking a look. That combined with the links Shanek gave me should start me off nicely. :)
 
I use Debian now, and while I think it is the best distro going (its free and not making money of others efforts like redhat, suse, mandrake) I would not recommend it to a newcomer to Linux, well not the now rather elderly 3.0r2 stable version.

The easiest for installation I have found is Mandrake, with Suse a very close second, but I have never used redhat.

I would urge Debian (stable), if you can get over the User Hostile installation method (but I have heard the new installer will be nice). Even though the current stable release (woody) is quite old, you can always use apt-get dist upgrade if you have the bandwidth.

But in the first instance, I would go to the local magazine store, look at the linux magazines and they usually have coverdiscs with trial, or cut down versions of distros on that will be up to date and play about with one of them, see if you like it, or ask someone to copy it for you (its not illegal)
 
Thumbo said:
Other posters have mentioned Suse, Mandrake, Debian, Mandrake - and they're all fine distributions if you want a working machine.

If you want to get under the hood a little, take a look at Gentoo. It's different (no binaries: everything gets built right on your PC from source) and is considered to be an enthusiasts distro.

Or do Linux From Scratch, or like most everyone, rely on a distro for the basics, but upgrade in your own way.

talking of which, 2.6.0 worth it? or should I wait until about 2.6.5 to upgrade?
 
Officially running SuSE 9.0 now and LOVING IT!!!

(Now, if only PalTalk will run under WINE... :()
 
shanek said:
Officially running SuSE 9.0 now and LOVING IT!!!

(Now, if only PalTalk will run under WINE... :()
Jim_MDP was in PalTalk last night on a mac. I think he said it was an old 400MHz laptop. He had really funky sound, when he was speaking, but it appeared to work well other than that.

I'll have to try and put PalTalk on my Linux Box...
 
I can get paltalk to log on, and private message, but it crashes whenever anyone speaks.

I think it maybe 'cos I am using KDE and using arts which is mucking it up. I will try again soon under XFCE.

Try the winehq app database.

I did go into the paltalk technical help rooms and ask, as they say in the promotional stuff that it is known people use linux for paltalk. All I got was "You have to install Internet Explorer for it to run". its a hard choice, and one I think is a load of crap.
 
Captain_Snort said:
I can get paltalk to log on, and private message, but it crashes whenever anyone speaks.

I can get it to log on, but it crashes whenever I try and load a room list. Haven't tried PMing.

Try the winehq app database.

I did; no help.

All I got was "You have to install Internet Explorer for it to run". its a hard choice, and one I think is a load of crap.

Hrmph...yeah, but I'll give it a shot...grumble grumble...
 

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