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What not to do when you win the lottery

It all depends on why you buy the ticket. If you buy the ticket in order to win the lottery, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. If you buy the ticket so you can spend the next few days fantasizing about what you will do after you win the lottery, then it can be a surprisingly affordable form of entertainment.

You can look at fancy homes on the internet, check out fancy cars and restaurants, and daydream and imagine with something “real” in your pocket. Of course, like Schrodinger’s cat, you eventually have to check to see if it a winning ticket (and it won’t be). But hey, they are cheap enough, and most people spend more on coffee each week.

Very true, my Mom & Dad played the lottery weekly for decades and had great fun doing it. They never spent more than $5 each per week usually only a buck or two. My younger brother does the same but sets his limit @ $1/week. After my Mom died my Dad even got lucky and won $15K that when combined with another lucky $20K casino win let him buy a car he'd always wanted for his retirement but couldn't justify buying until he'd won.
 
I have the concept boiled down to, "I can pay for it but I can't afford it." If I buy, for instance, concert tickets today (much less drinks at the event) I won't have the money in a week to pay this month's credit card bill.

It's amazing to me how many people (my sister-in-law leaps to mind) can't wrap their brains around that concept. God help my brother if he ever won a major sum of money; she'd blubber and simper and bawl until he spent every last red cent on her.

This is one good reason to give kids an allowance. Teaches them basic leasons regarding not being able to buy everything, and that they can save to buy bigger things if they really want them.
 
Very much so, as long as you don't seek to emulate Kim and Kanye.

At the current exchange rates $10 million is £8 Sterling. Without really trying hard and using my current building society, I could get between 1 and 1.5% on a mixture of saving accounts and bonds on separate chunks of £1 million. So if I invested £6 million that way, it would be generating around £75k per annum, which is just a little bit more than my wife and I earn combined at the moment.

The trouble is that the income isn't index-linked. £75k (before tax) is a lot of money now but maybe it won't be in 20, 30 or 40 years time, especially if there are times of significant inflation. Then again, you could eat into the principal too - £6m would go a long way with anything short of hyperinflation.

You may also find that you spend considerably more entertaining yourself in retirement than you currently do while working. It depends on your commuting costs and so forth.
 
I have a scratch off story. I read about this in the local news about five years ago and saw the woman interviewed on the local cable TV news station.

This was a young Indian-American woman in suburban Rockland County NY. After classes at Rockland County Community College she stopped at a nearby convenience store -- owned and operated by Indian-Americans -- to get batteries for her phone or laptop. Instead of taking the dollar change she decided on a whim to buy a Win-A-Million scratch off ticket. She had never bought a scratch off ticket before but she decided it would be fun. She scratched off the boxes and realized she had no idea what the symbols meant. She said she then showed the ticket to the man at the counter and asked him, "What does this mean? Did I win anything?" He glanced at the ticket and said, "Yes miss, you won one million dollars." She said she laughed and said, "No really, did I win something?" She said even she knew certain combinations carried minor prizes, ten or twenty dollars. She said the man repeated that she had won one million dollars. But he seemed so blase, almost disinterested, she continued to think he was joking. When she pressed him he got irritated and said, "Miss I'm telling you, you won the grand prize, you won a million dollars."

She thought, OMG I really did win!

What was the first thing she did? She called her mother. ;)
 
The jackpot in the next Powerball drawing (a U.S. long-odds progressive lottery) is estimated about U.S.$350 million.

The actual take-home value after opting for the lump sum (which every winner seems to do, so there might be a good reason for it)
If you are having some decent financial knowledge, it is the better move. You can take the lump sum and put it in a fairly safe account and get more money from the interest than you would get if you took the annuity.

Of course, not many people that win the lottery have that sort of financial ability.
 
If you are having some decent financial knowledge, it is the better move. You can take the lump sum and put it in a fairly safe account and get more money from the interest than you would get if you took the annuity.

Of course, not many people that win the lottery have that sort of financial ability.

I actually think taking annual payments would be much better for the majority of these big jackpot winners. With less cash on hand, they have years to get accustomed to their income and ability to use it within reason. And I believe now the annual payments are set to raise 5% per year instead of fixed the same over the entire course of the payout, so things like inflation and rising living costs should be covered.

So a 10 mil jackpot would start you at 150k a year and grow to 620k by the end of the 30 year time frame. Maybe not celebrity lifestyle to start but much lower risk of blowing it all.

Compare that to lump sum - 10mil would give around 6mil upfront. Then around 2.4mil for fed income taxes, another 200k for state taxes, and you end up with 3.4mil. With that in mind I wonder which most would take.
 
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The Lottery is for the mathematically challenged.

I see them huddled outside of convenience stores, scratching away like they have "the big secret" on how to win. They are so serious about it. They all look like they can't afford to be wasting their money like this.

And they all come inside to collect their winnings as if they are actually ahead of the game, which the vast majority cannot possibly be. Everyone I've ever known who plays regularly (literally everyone) seems to think they are ahead monetarily.

The worst part is that I have to wait in line behind these dummies while they buy/cash-in their tickets.

What a scam.

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I saw a headline today somewhere that said a woman is suing because she was too young to handle the money she won. Something stupid like that. Can't remember where I saw it though. Anyone else see it?
 
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Lottery winners who end up in worse situations than before they won are common.

There was research done on Norwegian lottery winners some time back, and it revealed that the majority of winners were unhappier after they won.

It was the expectations. People thought money would solve all their problems, and from now on life would be just paradise. Most of the money is quickly wasted, but their problems remain. They are even likely to get some new ones.

As was said above, it's not usually the smartest and wisest people who 'invest' in the lottery.
 
I actually think taking annual payments would be much better for the majority of these big jackpot winners. With less cash on hand, they have years to get accustomed to their income and ability to use it within reason. And I believe now the annual payments are set to raise 5% per year instead of fixed the same over the entire course of the payout, so things like inflation and rising living costs should be covered.*

I see what you're saying; but I don't think you're right. *If you take the lump sum you could probably do better than that interest-wise; and*as to the first point - if*a person is*so bad with money that one proposes they should*be taking the annuity purely for the sake of protecting their money from themselves, that proposition is wishful thinking anyway. Someone who would blow through $10 million is going to blow through $150,000, just*that much sooner. They'll actually have less incentive to be frugal because*they know for sure that "more is coming next year"; so all the annuity does is set them up with a cycle of a couple of months of*spree-spending and then three quarters of destitution and debt, rinse-and-repeat. Soon enough the next annuity payment is mostly spent even*before it's paid out.

Just*take the lump sum, get*an estates lawyer from a*national firm,*tell him you want to make your windfall last (or grow), and let him tell you how.
 
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There was research done on Norwegian lottery winners some time back, and it revealed that the majority of winners were unhappier after they won.

It was the expectations. People thought money would solve all their problems, and from now on life would be just paradise. Most of the money is quickly wasted, but their problems remain. They are even likely to get some new ones.

As was said above, it's not usually the smartest and wisest people who 'invest' in the lottery.

Desire is the root of suffering. What people think they want isn't what they actually want, and even if it is they usually want the wrong things, and even if they don't then getting what you want is usually a let-down. That said, it's better to be unhappy with money than without it.
 
I think Joan Rivers gets credit for this quip. (Not sure.)

"Money may not buy you happiness, but it will let you park your yacht next to it."


"Money may not buy happiness, but it sure lets you be miserable in comfort." (My Dad.)
 
Let's not forget that there are plenty of companies who will buy that annuity from you for cash now, once you've blown your year's income in one weekend.

I've played the lottery a handful of times in my life. Partly because for a good portion of my adulthood, that dollar was best spent on several packages of ramen to bulk up the kids' meals.

Now I'm a little better off (at least for now) and could afford to blow a few bucks (<$10) on dreaming per month, but I'd have to go out of my way to buy the tickets, so why bother?

The only person I've known who won big immediately got half the award taken by the state for owed child support, threw money at everyone he knew, whether they asked or not (including me) and blew the rest on toys. A year or so later he was reduced to selling off the toys he'd gotten, which included discovering that his "collectibles" had no resale value at all.

My dad is more like me, he has a set allowance a week for whatever form of gambling he wants, lottery, pull-tabs, etc. Sometimes he wins a little money and gets more tickets. Sometimes he wins a decent little payout and uses it to get something he's been wanting. He has fun, and he's got remarkable luck. But once he hits his preset spending point, that's it. He's done. It's more fun for him than buying magazines or fancy coffee beverages.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/15/euromillions-win-claimed-scottish-couple

The couple in that story have managed very well. They set their children up with homes and incomes, and they've set up a charitable fund concentrating mainly on local good causes. They've otherwise decided simply to enjoy life and stay out of the public gaze. I understand though that they bought some amazing property on a first viewing, offering even more if the furniture and so on was included in the sale. Instant lifestyle.

Their health has massively improved, I think partly due to lack of stress and being able to pay for specialist private support. Of course, with that sort of money, when you're already almost at retirement age, it would take rather a lot to fritter it away.
 
We don't have a lottery in my state, but even if we did, I doubt I would be eager to play. But the lottery is benign if it's just a form of entertainment. As with many things, moderation is really the key. It's when people have addictions it becomes a problem. Sort of like the smoking, drinking, eating junk food, etc..
 
I see what you're saying; but I don't think you're right. *If you take the lump sum you could probably do better than that interest-wise; and*as to the first point - if*a person is*so bad with money that one proposes they should*be taking the annuity purely for the sake of protecting their money from themselves, that proposition is wishful thinking anyway. Someone who would blow through $10 million is going to blow through $150,000, just*that much sooner. They'll actually have less incentive to be frugal because*they know for sure that "more is coming next year"; so all the annuity does is set them up with a cycle of a couple of months of*spree-spending and then three quarters of destitution and debt, rinse-and-repeat. Soon enough the next annuity payment is mostly spent even*before it's paid out.

Just*take the lump sum, get*an estates lawyer from a*national firm,*tell him you want to make your windfall last (or grow), and let him tell you how.

It is not necessarily protecting the money from themselves, more about a gradual increase in income and the time given to learn how to become accustomed to it. Getting a large sum of money at once devalues it for some. When you have 10 million, handing out a 100k to close family members is not something that will always feels frivolous. But things can quickly add up.

The same can be done putting the bulk of the money into a long term CD and having the penalty for early withdrawals be the deterrent. But again, large sum in hand leads to different decision making than annual income. Granted you could sell off a portion for upfront money, so I guess there is no real safe situation.

As for financial planners, that is no guarantee either. Bad advice comes from a variety of sources. I highly doubt a majority of lottery winners don't look for financial planning. They just don't follow it. Or they choose higher risk investments because "I've got XX mil, what's 200k on a magazine investment!"

You can very easily make bad investments with the best of intentions.
 
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It is not necessarily protecting the money from themselves, more about a gradual increase in income and the time given to learn how to become accustomed to it. Getting a large sum of money at once devalues it for some. When you have 10 million, handing out a 100k to close family members is not something that will always feels frivolous. But things can quickly add up.

The same can be done putting the bulk of the money into a long term CD and having the penalty for early withdrawals be the deterrent. But again, large sum in hand leads to different decision making than annual income. Granted you could sell off a portion for upfront money, so I guess there is no real safe situation.

As for financial planners, that is no guarantee either. Bad advice comes from a variety of sources. I highly doubt a majority of lottery winners don't look for financial planning. They just don't follow it. Or they choose higher risk investments because "I've got XX mil, what's 200k on a magazine investment!"

You can very easily make bad investments with the best of intentions.

Again, I have to disagree.* Someone who's careless with a $150,000 annuity is going to spend it*all very quickly indeed. By the time their next annuity payment comes - for one thing, they won't have a choice but to spend a chunk of it immediately because they'll be in debt. And even if that's not the case, or the debt isn't that crushing, it's simply unreasonable to suggest anyone has a chance of learning a lesson that takes literally*years to teach.

A lump sum of several million can teach a better lesson far faster: the lottery winner with all of those millions instantly in the bank - or better yet, in some treasury instruments and maybe a slow-cooker index somewhere - only has to wait a few months before the*benefit of leaving it there becomes apparent: many millions creates a whole lot of extra money just by being there. *So you have your lottery jackpot, plus you're earning as much as your annuity would've been on top of it. The only difference being that the lump sum will continue to earn forever.

Going the*other route, once your annuity*has paid off the total it stops, forever. If you've learned how to live on $150,000 a year that's going to be a bad day, because*the couple-to-few thousand a year you'd been setting aside all that time*may not add up to enough to keep earning $150,000 a year once the annuity stops.* So, you're either going to have to make a dramatic*quality of life reduction at that time, or you're going to have to resist any substantial quality of life improvement for many years after to your winnings, in favor of saving enough*each year that after 20 years you'll finally have enough*producing capital to start living better.

With the lump sum, you can start living better immediately without penalty, and the amount of money you can put away makes it more visibly apparent what money*that's been put to work is capable of doing.

As for financial advisers - I didn't suggest getting one of those; I suggested getting an estates lawyer, from a national firm. Maybe you want to invest some money eventually at some point; but*the best thing to do on day 1, before you even cash the ticket maybe, is*get structured and protected. The estates lawyer can teach you how to budget and "adjust" to that much income; it doesn't take years, it takes just a couple*hours of patient listening. Once you're informed the advantages of taking it easy are pretty obvious.
 
I remember a local news story about a couple who had won a large (at that time, pre PowerBall and such) jackpot. They told the reporter how they were just simple people and it wouldn't change them. But they only claimed the jackpot after several months while setting up a sophisticated family trust to be the official "winner".
 
I remember a local news story about a couple who had won a large (at that time, pre PowerBall and such) jackpot. They told the reporter how they were just simple people and it wouldn't change them. But they only claimed the jackpot after several months while setting up a sophisticated family trust to be the official "winner".

"Simple" doesn't have to mean stupid. And a trust is a pretty standard way of sharing a prize among multiple people, like co-workers. It sounds like they went to a lawyer and said "Whatdowedonow?"
 

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