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What more Microbes can effect?

Kumar said:
Probably. sometimes we get any live being made only from energy(wave/spectrum/MF etc.)--"Energy being/microbe". Then this can clear many unclarities.
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OK, well good luck looking for them. Scientists have been looking for new types of energy for decades, without much luck.
 
Kumar said:
No. There eat lesser cheese and not from radioactive cows. There can be a difference between carrier and ingestion. Still we don't know, what can be the excreted undigested food. But I think, they have reach to the point, whether effective or not, is to be evalued. We can try searching in reputed older mythologies/indications.
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So they have green skin because of the psychic flying elephants then?
 
arthwollipot said:
OK, well good luck looking for them. Scientists have been looking for new types of energy for decades, without much luck.
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Yes, it is just thought, though energetic entities are indicative but yet para-normal/ununerstood. Functional basis of activities can be energy. So "Energy beings" can't be thought.
 
CFLarsen said:
Kumar,

Just so this is absolutely clear.

By suggesting that microbes are the possible "active ingredient" in homeopathic remedies, you are completely abandoning the principle of homeopathy.

You do realize this, don't you?
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Just a thought becuse science couldn't yey find molecular or energetic presence directly of active substance, so I am trying to look other posibilties. I meant "if impacts due to specifically modified microbes or products thereof if modified due to initial physical presence of active substance".

Anyway, on looking, most people are allergic to homeopathy, may or may not to me or to my thoughts, I kept this issue for others, pending for future research.
 
Kumar said:
I feel, I am not clear on what you are saying. Pls make it simple for me.
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PixyMisa asked you
A question for you, Kumar:

Do all people in India have green skin because they eat cheese from giant radioactive cows, or is it because of the psychic flying elephants?

Just curious.
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In other words is the reason that all people in India have green skin because
a) they eat cheese from giant radioactive cows or
b) because of the psychic flying elephants.

You responded (as best as I can tell), that people did not eat much cheese and you don’t know if the radiation has an effect or not.

The logical conclusion is therefore that you discount the “cheese from giant radioactive cows” hypothesis, and therefore accept the “psychic flying elephants” hypothesis.

If it were me I would have challenged the whole basis of the question, by first asking if all people in India have green skin, and if they do- is there any evidence for the existence of either “cheese from giant radioactive cows” or “psychic flying elephants” and if so, is there any relationship between these things and green skin.

That, however, is not how you tend to argue, perhaps it is because life is so much simpler- and possibly more fun- if you just make up phenomena, invent mystical, magical or otherwise impossible agents, and then invoke these agents as an explanation for your made up phenomena.
It is not, howeaver, a good way to understand the real world.
 
Kumar said:
Just a thought because science couldn't yey find molecular or energetic presence directly of active substance, so I am trying to look other posibilties. I meant "if impacts due to specifically modified microbes or products thereof if modified due to initial physical presence of active substance".
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People don’t dismiss homeopathy just because it is chemically, physically and biologically impossible, they dismiss it because it has repeatedly been shown to have no effect. If it could be shown to have an effect then we would have to alter our theories of chemistry, physics and biology to incorporate this data. As it is you are determined to prove that green skin is caused by psychic flying elephants, because science has shown that giant radioactive cows produce no milk for cheese. You haven’t bothered to check if anyone ash green skin or not first. To use an analogy.


Anyway, on looking, most people are allergic to homeopathy, may or may not to me or to my thoughts, I kept this issue for others, pending for future research.
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I don’t understand what you are saying here, can you make it more simple? Are you claiming that homeopathy produces an allergic reaction in people and is therefore dangerous? Do you have evidence for this claim?
 
arthwollipot said:
For a living entity to be made out of just energy, there would need to be a mechanism for energy to grow, metabolise and reproduce. And energy just doesn't do that. Energy just propagates from one point to another, using well-defined and well-understood mechanisms.

Microbes are not energy. Microbes are matter. If you have some evidence of the existence of any kind of "energy being", microbial or not, then you're in line not only for Randi's million, but for Nobel's as well.

So no. I do not feel any such possibility. But I would be happy to be proved wrong.
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Whether energy concentration, propagation or existance in any micro entity and expresing therefrom is not possible? What is a spectrum? Some say; "Colour isthe sprit of a substance". Probably, sunstance/body is a thing and its energy is a being.

However "being is also defined as;

"Being means existence or presence, belonging to the material or immaterial universe, substance, constitution or nature.

"One's basic or essential nature."

"A being, in the most general sense, is anything that is alive. Being with a capital 'B', on the other hand, is often used in philosophy to refer to divine Being, God, or ultimate reality.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being"
 
Kumar said:
Just a thought becuse science couldn't yey find molecular or energetic presence directly of active substance, so I am trying to look other posibilties. I meant "if impacts due to specifically modified microbes or products thereof if modified due to initial physical presence of active substance".

Anyway, on looking, most people are allergic to homeopathy, may or may not to me or to my thoughts, I kept this issue for others, pending for future research.
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You are trying to look at other possibility. We already know that.

However:

Do you realize that the microbe possibility means that it is not homeopathy that "cures" people?

That it is not the dilution-beyond-Avogadro's-number that "cures" people, but microbes?

Do you understand this, yes or no?
 
brodski said:
PixyMisa asked you


In other words is the reason that all people in India have green skin because
a) they eat cheese from giant radioactive cows or
b) because of the psychic flying elephants...
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Better PixyMisa to respond. There can be some indirect relevances to it.
 
Rolfe said:
I think I've had enough of discussing the toxoplasmosis stuff here. Pretty questionable, to put in mildly. Get Kumar on that, and we'll be here all year.

Kumar, I thought you'd understood the difference between "affect" and "effect", but you're still getting it wrong.

Rolfe.
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I shall read, try to understand and relate with this topic.

Thanks for improving my grammer(I always respected).

I got following definitions;
Affect" is a verb that means "to influence." "Effect" is usually a noun that means "a result" or "influence." As a verb, "effect" means "to accomplish" or "to produce." (Examples: The devastating effects of the hurricane affected the lives of everyone in the small coastal town. The new taxes effected a change in the school budget.)
www.lausd.k12.ca.us/Van_Nuys_MS/glossary index.html "

English is typical for me. Some one pointed out that trees do not suggest. Ok, but still, I could get few justified definitions (Look Cut-flower...topic). :)
 
Kumar said:
Better PixyMisa to respond. There can be some indirect relevances to it.
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It is exactly relevant to your posts, you are looking for an impossible cause for an imaginary effect.
Do you understand the point we are making?
 
CFLarsen said:
You are trying to look at other possibility. We already know that.

However:

Do you realize that the microbe possibility means that it is not homeopathy that "cures" people?

That it is not the dilution-beyond-Avogadro's-number that "cures" people, but microbes?

Do you understand this, yes or no?
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No. Yet pending for furthur reseach. Like cure like means "similar cure similar" not "same cure same". All these will be "like cure like"-- Any symptom by higher concentration, if cured by its lower concentration. Any symptom by lower dilution if cured by its higher dilution(?). Any symptom by materialistic substance if cured by its energetic substance. Any symptom if by more energy is cured by its lesser energy. Any symptom by any substance if cured by its relevant/related substance(materiastic and energetic). Now you can count.:)
 
brodski said:
It is exactly relevant to your posts, you are looking for an impossible cause for an imaginary effect.
Do you understand the point we are making?
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I somewhere had mentioned that "Dr Hahn. & Dr.Sch.(you can take other reputed scientists also Newtons etc.) thought differently and dynamically so got differently and dynamically". Look at my Sign. This can be the basis of new understandings. I know, I am wondering in jungles, but cities are already serched to maximum. We can't/may not get new knowledges/understandings in cities.
 
Kumar said:
Hello,

In view of smaller size, wide presence and other chracteristics, how much microbes can influence our daily life?

Can these be the reciever, carrier, preserver, interpreter and passer of our small small informations?
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Oh, what the hell......
(If Kumar takes the bait, you guys will probably kill me for it and I'll no doubt regret it, but I'm in a mischievous mood.)

Kumar, have you considered the role of Nanoparticles?

PS: Also, try reading this book. It's not fiction but prediction ;)
 
Kumar said:
No. Yet pending for furthur reseach. Like cure like means "similar cure similar" not "same cure same". All these will be "like cure like"-- Any symptom by higher concentration, if cured by its lower concentration. Any symptom by lower dilution if cured by its higher dilution(?). Any symptom by materialistic substance if cured by its energetic substance. Any symptom if by more energy is cured by its lesser energy. Any symptom by any substance if cured by its relevant/related substance(materiastic and energetic). Now you can count.:)
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.....what???

Are you saying that it isn't the microbes themselves that cure, but a dilution of microbes?
 
Deetee said:
Oh, what the hell......
(If Kumar takes the bait, you guys will probably kill me for it and I'll no doubt regret it, but I'm in a mischievous mood.)

Kumar, have you considered the role of Nanoparticles?

PS: Also, try reading this book. It's not fiction but prediction ;)
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Ok thanks. First you should accept presence of relevant particles.
 
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