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What is your excuse for killing animals?

Doesn't matter; we've already established that road-kill is vegan.

Although we've also established that lizards are vegan too - presumably other reptiles as well - and I think we could probably infer that amphibians are vegan too for the same reasons lizards are.

Therefore amphibians are good to eat either way.

Probably because they weren't cute before they died.

Same thing with McCartney and seals. BABY seals, because they're so cute.
 
Probably because they weren't cute before they died.

No, just something ill defined by "rich mental lives".

Really, might as well just substitute it for, "anything I think it should be, and nothing it shouldn't, as per the existing cultural food prejudices I am already familiar with".
 
I think I'm done... once the other side is reduced to tiny posts repeating points which have already been answered repeatedly, there is nothing new to be said, and nothing to be gained by repeating oneself just for those people's benefit.
Funny that you posted this after post #1054, but I agree with one thing: the thread has long since become a series of people repeating themselves.

DR
 
If human are "just" animals, then we should "just" act like animals and kill to eat like any other omnivore that needs meat to be healthy.

Of course there is no such thing as "just" and nothing wrong with being animals. Humans are sentient beings, capable of reason. It would be wrong to kill another human for food - whether that human chooses to use reason or not.

Sure, you can live without eating meat, but being healthy is very, very difficult. Even with specific vitamin supplements and high protein nuts, seeds, and beans it is very difficult for vegans to get complete nutrition.
 
an·i·mal   [an-uh-muhl] Show IPA
–noun
1.
any member of the kingdom Animalia, comprising multicellular organisms that have a well-defined shape and usually limited growth, can move voluntarily, actively acquire food and digest it internally, and have sensory and nervous systems that allow them to respond rapidly to stimuli: some classification schemes also include protozoa and certain other single-celled eukaryotes that have motility and animallike nutritional modes.
2.
any such living thing other than a human being.


Sorry, my dear Vegans but you're being dishonest, and there's just no way around that.

Please provide your excuse for killing bacteria, insects and other life forms which do qualify as animals.
 
Sorry, my dear Vegans but you're being dishonest, and there's just no way around that.

Please provide your excuse for killing bacteria, insects and other life forms which do qualify as animals.

Ron, as a clarification, bacteria are not in the kingdom animalia, they are Monera, actually far more different from animals than we are from plants.

Bacteria are not animals, in fact they are about as far from animals as a living thing can be. They are Prokaryotic, whereas, protistas, plants, animals and fungi are all Eukaryotic.
 
Ron, as a clarification, bacteria are not in the kingdom animalia, they are Monera, actually far more different from animals than we are from plants.

Bacteria are not animals, in fact they are about as far from animals as a living thing can be. They are Prokaryotic, whereas, protistas, plants, animals and fungi are all Eukaryotic.

Oh well, then I believe we have found the excuse ;)
 
Sure, you can live without eating meat, but being healthy is very, very difficult. Even with specific vitamin supplements and high protein nuts, seeds, and beans it is very difficult for vegans to get complete nutrition.

It isn't hard and I don't know of any research showing meat eaters to be healthier.
 
This is not a moral questions, unless you are talking about killing animals for sport. Other than that, the reason it is ok to kill animals is because they nourish us and they are very tasty! We are carnivores, like the big cats or the birds or prey. We are doing what our ancestors have been doing for millions of years. We need all that protein to feed our big brains.
 
we evolved, therefore we would have had a hard time surviving in many parts of the world without eating animals. Tell an eskimo to eat a few shrubs. I don't think so
 

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