What did Democrats do wrong?

[Safe-Keeper]

I'm curious how much time MAGA spends manufacturing dumb bull ◊◊◊◊ like this to wedge the square peg of their delusions into the round hole of reality.

Every piece fits in the 'MAGA Ackbar!' hole to the Y'all-Qaida.

 

[TomB]

I'm still curious how many of the 47% who have no convictions or pending criminal charges are immediate families of the convict or charged individual.

I'm curious where your 47% number comes from. the link from Zipr you seem to be referring to said 73.6%. Did you mean 74% and transpose the numbers or do you have a separate source that accounts for pending charges as well as convictions?

That said, people should not be penalized for pending charges. Wait for the conviction.

From one of your previous posts:

TA: I'm curious how many of the people without charges are the immediate families of someone with charges, and whether you (collective) support separating families in order to let illegal aliens without criminal charges stay?

That seems like a strange question.
Why would not deporting family members be "separating families?" that makes no sense.
Not deporting hem gives the family the freedom to decide what the best option would be for them.

Basing the justification on keeping families together doesn't make sense.
If you based your argument simply on illegal aliens encountered in the process of detaining a criminal alien, it would be more sound. Debatable, but at least based on sound logic.

 

[Emily's Cat]

I'm curious where your 47% number comes from. the link from Zipr you seem to be referring to said 73.6%. Did you mean 74% and transpose the numbers or do you have a separate source that accounts for pending charges as well as convictions?

Zipr quoted 73.6% without convictions. Which is technically true, and materially misleading. The attached data shows that 26% are convicted criminals, 26% have pending criminal charges, and 47% have other immigration violations.

That said, people should not be penalized for pending charges. Wait for the conviction.

I get where you're coming from... but I'm not sure I agree. Bear in mind that immigration violations ARE crimes, and that's already documented. If someone is in your house without your permission, why should you have to wait until they punch you before you evict them? While it's certainly *nice* of us to grant those illegal aliens all the same privileges of a citizen, in truth they aren't required to go through the entirety of the criminal courts before they can be detained and/or deported. The reality is that a nice hard-working visa overstay who has never even received a parking ticket can be deported because they are present in the country illegally.

My objective in referencing the 47% is that those are people for whom no criminal activity is known or suspected - for all intents those are your 'honest' illegals. And I'm curious how many of those were tantamount to visa overstays as I mentioned above, as opposed to the immediate family of someone in the 53% convicted or charged.

From one of your previous posts:

That seems like a strange question.
Why would not deporting family members be "separating families?" that makes no sense.
Not deporting hem gives the family the freedom to decide what the best option would be for them.

Basing the justification on keeping families together doesn't make sense.
If you based your argument simply on illegal aliens encountered in the process of detaining a criminal alien, it would be more sound. Debatable, but at least based on sound logic.

Imagine a scenario where one member of a 5 person family is a convicted criminal, but all 5 of them are here illegally. The one, Alex, gets picked up based on their criminal past. Which do you prefer: 1) Alex gets deported, but the other 4 members of Alex's family get to stay here even though they're here illegally, thus separating families? Or 2) Alex and their whole family get deported together.

 

[dirtywick]

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/02/trump-nationalize-elections-2026-midterms-00760015

the guy who committed election fraud in 2020 and recently had the fbi raid georgia election offices goes on disgraced former fbi direction dan bongino's conspiracy theorist podcast and says they should take over the vote in 15 places, pledges to bring honestly to the 2026 midterms. i know we're off the voter id stuff and how important to preventing election fraud that was, and on to whether or not ice terrorizing blue cities near canada is making the border safer, but if you're at all concerned about election integrity that seems like some stuff to maybe look into

 

[arthwollipot]