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What did Democrats do wrong?

What did Democrats do wrong?

  • Didn't fight inflation enough.

    Votes: 12 15.2%

  • Didn't fight illegal immigration enough.

    Votes: 22 27.8%

  • Too much focus on abortion.

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Too much transgender stuff.

    Votes: 28 35.4%

  • America not ready for Progressive women leader.

    Votes: 26 32.9%

  • Should have kept Joe.

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Not enough focus on new jobs.

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Nothing, Trump cheated & played dirty!

    Votes: 14 17.7%

  • Didn't stop Gaza War.

    Votes: 8 10.1%

  • I can be Agent M.

    Votes: 6 7.6%
  • Total voters
    79
theprestige said:
How's that narrative working out for the Democrats right now? It doesn't seem to have garnered them the votes they needed last Tuesday.
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Do you think it would have been wrong for the Social Democrats to have said in 1933 that the voters who voted for the Nazi party were stupid?

Sure, it may not be helpful. But that doesn't mean it would be wrong.
 
Hercules56 said:
Do you think it would have been wrong for the Social Democrats to have said in 1933 that the voters who voted for the Nazi party were stupid?

Sure, it may not be helpful. But that doesn't mean it would be wrong.
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The two scenarios are not analogous.

Comparing swing voters to Nazis can be added to the list of things Democrats keep doing wrong.
 
theprestige said:
The two scenarios are not analogous.

Comparing swing voters to Nazis can be added to the list of things Democrats keep doing wrong.
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Yup, you don't even have to be a swing voter to be called a nazi. Some EN dems in ISF have been calling me that too. And all because I won't lie and tell everyone I'm a democrat.


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Clearly what Democrats did wrong was not coddle the precious, precious feelings of the tender little snowflakes. And they're still not! "Waaah!" screams the toddler, it wants to be told how smart it is!
 
Tero said:
I would be happy to chip in to produce some stickers for them. Instead of "I voted," I give them one that says "honorable Nazi."
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I bet the Trumpies consider swing voters who voted for Harris radicals or Communists. So though the term "Nazi" seems a little harsh, I see no reason not to call swing voters who went for Trump fascists.

Or if you want to be really nice about it, you could say they're not fascists, just fascist-friendly.
 
well i kind of feel unless you're going to stand behind the statement that donald trump was the better choice, i get to call people stupid. it was a stupid choice to elect him, and at best when you talk about any of his policy positions you're hearing "well he never does what he says anyway so he probably won't do something that stupid" and you might so, oh well it's counterproductive and just makes people vote for trump more, to that i say you can't reason with them either. they're too focused on dei and the trans that they don't even care how bad his policy positions are for the country and how much of a lying criminal he is.

so i feel there's nowhere left to go from there
 
AmyStrange said:
True, but we'll have to see how well that goes over the next 4 years.


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That's the point. There was no need to wait for a hypothetical fall of democracy from Republicans as Democrats actively subverted the democratic process by appointing Harris as the candidate for the Democrat party. Even though there was an opportunity to correct this mistake by having an open convention, the blinders were on and the democratic process was ignored completely. The will of the people was not included in the process. That's not democracy, that's oligarchy.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
That's the point. There was no need to wait for a hypothetical fall of democracy from Republicans as Democrats actively subverted the democratic process by appointing Harris as the candidate for the Democrat party. Even though there was an opportunity to correct this mistake by having an open convention, the blinders were on and the democratic process was ignored completely. The will of the people was not included in the process. That's not democracy, that's oligarchy.
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Too bad for you that's not true, but I'm sure all the maga weirdoes will believe that rather than the truth.


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theprestige said:
The 'voters are stupid and evil' narrative, ladies and gentlemen! Speaking of things the Democrats are doing wrong...
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There's the thing, even if they are right and enough voters are just dumb, vicious, racist, transphobes, homophobes, etc....to win the election, do they think that saying, well we didn't win because American voters suck is going to get anyone of those voters to change their minds? If that is the primary conclusion the Dems draw, they'll keep losing, at least it will make winning a lot harder.
 
AmyStrange said:
Too bad for you that's not true, but I'm sure all the maga weirdoes will believe that rather than the truth.


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Its truthy enough. I do think that helped Harris lose. If they'd had an open convention and possible chosen someone from outside the Biden administration, they'd have had a better chance. "When did you realize Biden couldn't be the president anymore?" is a lot easier to answer when you weren't his VP. Also, a lot easier to distance yourself from a very unpopular administration when you didn't work in it.
 
ahhell said:
Its truthy enough. I do think that helped Harris lose. If they'd had an open convention and possible chosen someone from outside the Biden administration, they'd have had a better chance. "When did you realize Biden couldn't be the president anymore?" is a lot easier to answer when you weren't his VP. Also, a lot easier to distance yourself from a very unpopular administration when you didn't work in it.
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Well, that could be, but I think the real truth is that if the maga weirdoes hadn't been stupid, uneducated idiots, trump and what's his name never would've won, but that's just my opinion. Your mileage may vary of course.


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AmyStrange said:
Too bad for you that's not true, but I'm sure all the maga weirdoes will believe that rather than the truth.


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Can you provide a link to the Democratic primary result that shows Harris as the victor? Or are you limited only to petty insult and denial of reality?
 
AmyStrange said:
No, I'll let you do the petty insults and denial of reality. You're better at it.


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Thank you for acknowledging there can be no factual rebuttal of my prior statement on democratic subversion and voter disenfranchisement. You'd be hard pressed to find personal insult in any of my posts on the forum. I tend to communicate with facts rather than insult and emotion.
 
AmyStrange said:
I don't know, I forgot where I was going with that, but please accept my apologies for being stupid.

But, let me try this again anyway. What I believe is that because there were 10 million less votes for Harris than for Biden in 2020, it's possible that she lost because those same amount of folks stayed home and didn't even bother to vote at all.


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I was saying: The popular vote, nationwide, isn't what determines who wins and who loses. It's the popular vote at the state level that determines this.

Losing 100,000 votes in California doesn't matter; losing 100,000 voters in swing states matters A LOT.

I got to thinking. Kamala Harris never had kids. I have a sneaking suspicion this hurt her. I don't know why it should, from a rational standpoint; I just think it may have made her a little less relatable.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Thank you for acknowledging there can be no factual rebuttal of my prior statement on democratic subversion and voter disenfranchisement. You'd be hard pressed to find personal insult in any of my posts on the forum. I tend to communicate with facts rather than insult and emotion.
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You're welcome, and BTW, I'm not a democrat, so your statement doesn't concern me in the least.


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Minoosh said:
I was saying: The popular vote, nationwide, isn't what determines who wins and who loses. It's the popular vote at the state level that determines this.

Losing 100,000 votes in California doesn't matter; losing 100,000 voters in swing states matters A LOT.

I got to thinking. Kamala Harris never had kids. I have a sneaking suspicion this hurt her. I don't know why it should, from a rational standpoint; I just think it may have made her a little less relatable.
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I agree with most of what you say, but don't you think 10 million voters not showing up had something to do with it too?


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