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!!WARNING!! You are fat!

RandFan

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Obese should have health warnings on their clothes.

Excuse me, but you are fat....

Ahhh... Duh.

Ok, they are saying that there should be help line phone numbers sewn into fat people's clothes ("help me, I'm fat and I can't stop eating").

Some people are f'ing clueless.

"Hey, I know, let's sew phone #'s into people's clothes" that will help.
 
Sure kick the f:rolleyes: k out of them, that'll help.

Fat people do not need to be told they are fat. They need to be told that their out of control lifestyle will kill them. They need to be told that food isn't their only friend and other such 'DrPhilisms'. They probably need to see a professional. A phone number in their dress is just f'kin insulting.
 
clarsct said:
Sure kick the f:rolleyes: k out of them, that'll help.

Fat people do not need to be told they are fat. They need to be told that their out of control lifestyle will kill them. They need to be told that food isn't their only friend and other such 'DrPhilisms'. They probably need to see a professional. A phone number in their dress is just f'kin insulting.
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Dr. Phill, there's another anti-science moron.
 
Actually, I'm not so sure this is a bad idea. It would be proactive on the part of clothing manufacturers.

People sue cigarette manufacturers for not warning them that cigarettes are dangerous, even though every pack of cigarettes has had threats printed on it since the 1960's.

The first lawsuits against McDonald's and other fast food joints are working their way through the system.

Okay, clothing doesn't cause obesity and its associated ills, the way cigarettes and Quarter-Pounders do. But is it such a stretch to imagine some enterprising ambulance chaser suing Donna Karan and Tommy Hilfiger for making fashionable clothes for fat people, thereby encouraging and abetting them in their dangerous lifestyle?

Hell, in this lawsuit-happy day and age, bottled water should come with warnings not to freeze it and whack your kids over the head with it, or boil it and pour it on your privates.
 
Overeating in many cases is just a poor lifestyle choice, too many calories , too little exercise. But in many other cases it is a 'mood altering behavior', an addiction just like any other. Most morbidly obese people (those 30% over thier ideal body weight) already know they are overweight and you would have to live as a Luudite to not know the health consequences.

So the Perfesser's suggestion is about as helpful as putting a help line number on beer bottles. How many alcoholics know they are killing themselves?
 
BPSCG said:
Actually, I'm not so sure this is a bad idea. It would be proactive on the part of clothing manufacturers.

People sue cigarette manufacturers for not warning them that cigarettes are dangerous, even though every pack of cigarettes has had threats printed on it since the 1960's.

The first lawsuits against McDonald's and other fast food joints are working their way through the system.

Okay, clothing doesn't cause obesity and its associated ills, the way cigarettes and Quarter-Pounders do. But is it such a stretch to imagine some enterprising ambulance chaser suing Donna Karan and Tommy Hilfiger for making fashionable clothes for fat people, thereby encouraging and abetting them in their dangerous lifestyle?

Hell, in this lawsuit-happy day and age, bottled water should come with warnings not to freeze it and whack your kids over the head with it, or boil it and pour it on your privates.
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Or lying face down in it!
 
BPSCG said:
Hell, in this lawsuit-happy day and age, bottled water should come with warnings not to freeze it and whack your kids over the head with it, or boil it and pour it on your privates.
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You're NOT supposed to be doing that? My son is going to be soooooo happy, and maybe now that crusty crotch rash of mine will finally clear up!

Actually, I find the idea of obesity warnings on clothing rather offensive unless of course, they're talking about Spandex. Some people who shouldn't wear Spandex and do should be arrested for indecent exposure. ;)
 
BPSCG said:
Actually, I'm not so sure this is a bad idea. It would be proactive on the part of clothing manufacturers.

People sue cigarette manufacturers for not warning them that cigarettes are dangerous, even though every pack of cigarettes has had threats printed on it since the 1960's.

The first lawsuits against McDonald's and other fast food joints are working their way through the system.

Okay, clothing doesn't cause obesity and its associated ills, the way cigarettes and Quarter-Pounders do. But is it such a stretch to imagine some enterprising ambulance chaser suing Donna Karan and Tommy Hilfiger for making fashionable clothes for fat people, thereby encouraging and abetting them in their dangerous lifestyle?

Hell, in this lawsuit-happy day and age, bottled water should come with warnings not to freeze it and whack your kids over the head with it, or boil it and pour it on your privates.
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Amazingly, there are some fat people who are fat because of hormonal problems, or other conditions which have nothing to do with overeating. Even so, making clothes to cover fat people not only doesn't make people fat, you could say that it's a valuable public service.

Do you want to see millions of naked fat people?
 
Instead of fat-warning labels on clothes, it should be on the food itself. McD's could silk-screen a Surgeon General's warning on to the top of the hamburger bun!
 
BPSCG said:
Okay, clothing doesn't cause obesity and its associated ills, the way cigarettes and Quarter-Pounders do. But is it such a stretch to imagine some enterprising ambulance chaser suing Donna Karan and Tommy Hilfiger for making fashionable clothes for fat people, thereby encouraging and abetting them in their dangerous lifestyle?
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Yes, it really is.
 
ImaginalDisc said:
Amazingly, there are some fat people who are fat because of hormonal problems, or other conditions which have nothing to do with overeating. Even so, making clothes to cover fat people not only doesn't make people fat, you could say that it's a valuable public service.
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What exactly are we talking about here? The first law of thermo dynamics tells me that there should always be a relation between how much you eat, how much energy you use and how much weight you gain. That is not to say that there couldn't be some sort of disorder that made you retain fat no matter what even if you were starving that I just haven't heard of. In any case being big isn't really the same as being fat. It would be somewhat odd to see Michael Clarcke Duncan (the huge black guy from The Green Mile) walking around with clothe saying "hey you're fat!".
 
Kerberos said:
What exactly are we talking about here? The first law of thermo dynamics tells me that there should always be a relation between how much you eat, how much energy you use and how much weight you gain. That is not to say that there couldn't be some sort of disorder that made you retain fat no matter what even if you were starving that I just haven't heard of. In any case being big isn't really the same as being fat. It would be somewhat odd to see Michael Clarcke Duncan (the huge black guy from The Green Mile) walking around with clothe saying "hey you're fat!".
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Metabolism plays a huge role. Its not as though all things are equal when it comes to that.


ANYWAY- I dont see why anyone should feel responsible for other peoples fat? Its everyones job to take care of their weight personally. Not to mention there are overweight people who are *gasp* happy with their weight and plenty of people who are healthy at a higher weigh too.


I think they should put a 'eat SOMETHING' warning on size 0 jeans, just to be fair.
 
nails said:
ANYWAY- I dont see why anyone should feel responsible for other peoples fat?
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This is a UK story. In the UK, we pay a lot of tax towards the National Health Service. The rising levels of obesity will, according to some experts, eventually bankrupt the NHS. At present, the treatment of obesity-related health problems (which are in the main self-inflicted, although as ID points out, there are exceptions including hormone problems) takes up 9% of the NHS budget, with one in five UK adults classed as obese.

However, if those numbers increase at the same rate, by 2010 one in three UK adults will be obese, and the associated health problems will increase proportionately.

A recent report (which the clothing label idea is part of) suggests that over the next 20 years, NHS spending because of obesity will increase by over £30billion. Hence, the govt. are looking for ways to tackle it.

So, that's why we should feel responsible. Because we foot the bill.

In the USA, you pay for your own obesity-related health problems, so it's no-one's problem but your own.

That said, I think the clothing label idea is a stupid one.
 
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Lisa Simpson said:
Instead of fat-warning labels on clothes, it should be on the food itself. McD's could silk-screen a Surgeon General's warning on to the top of the hamburger bun!
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In the UK, chocolate will soon carry a health warning, I believe, or already does. Burgers won't be far behind.
 
tkingdoll said:
In the USA, you pay for your own obesity-related health problems, so it's no-one's problem but your own.
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No, not really.

The same argument is made here.

Increased Medicare and Medicaid payments coming from the taxpayer and increased premiums from health insurers to cover the cost of obesity are factors.
 
Mike B. said:
No, not really.

The same argument is made here.

Increased Medicare and Medicaid payments coming from the taxpayer and increased premiums from health insurers to cover the cost of obesity are factors.
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Right you are. To be honest, I'm not too familiar with the public medical aid system in the USA, I thought that it just covered things like giving birth and having a heart attack in the street. So if someone gets obesity-related diabetes, they can get free treatment?

But it's a very valid argument whichever country it's in, and eventually the NHS will have to start refusing treatment to those who won't diet in the same way they do smokers.

Interestingly, the drive to get smokers to quit has succeeded, but obesity levels have increased as a result, because so many smokers turn to food instead. There is evidence that it is costing the NHS the same to treat those people as before, but for different reasons. Also, obesity is very related to education level and income, as is smoking. It's the whole of society's problem, so the whole of society should help to deal with it (preventative measures through education rather than stomach-stapling for children, that is).
 
Concerning thermodynamics: Unless you are a professional athlete, the majority of your calorie consumption goes towards keeping your internal organs alive and working, and maintaining your internal body temperature. Your body has numerous mechanisms for saving on these, such as making you extremely tired, or shutting down capillary blood flow to the skin.

Quite a few studies show that fat people do not eat more than thin people, but that the fat people are less active. Once upon a time I clawed through the net and collected references, but I don't know if I could find them again.
 
Kerberos said:
What exactly are we talking about here? The first law of thermo dynamics tells me that there should always be a relation between how much you eat, how much energy you use and how much weight you gain. That is not to say that there couldn't be some sort of disorder that made you retain fat no matter what even if you were starving that I just haven't heard of.
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Ahem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothyroidism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prader-Willi_syndrome

. . . amoung other causes.

Weight gain is also not an uncommon side effect of some medications, and if the choice is between psychotic illness and normal body weight, I'd choose sanity over being sveldt.
 
According to my fine nutrition textbook, 60-65% of calorie expenditure is the basal metabolism, 10% is the thermic effect of food, and the remaining is physical activity.
 
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