War on Christmas

Darth Rotor said:
I went out of my way to hit IHOP and order French Toast the day after I read that newspaper article, looking for a scrap. Freedom Toast and that whole moronic schtick irritated me at a visceral level: a Congressman wasting his time on petty crap like that?

The waitress took my order for French Toast, brought me French Toast and coffee. When all was said and don, IHOP presented me with yet another magnificent (and carb filled) breakfast.

No fight, yay IHOP.

DR
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And did you drive home in your Peugeot?
 
NoZed Avenger said:
She's a good ship.
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The scary thing is, dude, I've been using the LOLLIPOP to describe my ship for about a year, now, and you're the first one to make that joke. I anticipated a comment much sooner than now :)

Marc
 
Around our house, we started the War on Christmas early by annexing Thanksgiving.
 
nails said:
what a nut. You would 'have to be crazy' to be offended by the phrase merry christmas, which excludes people, but its perfectly fine for christians to be offended by 'happy holidays' which includes everyone?
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...never mind the little detail that oh btw this isn't true, rare/extreme cases notwithstanding. Good luck finding a Christian offended by someone saying "happy holidays."

And for about the 10 millionth time: if someone has the horrible un-PC audacity to say "Merry Christmas" (:eek: :covereyes oh the humanity) the odds are much greater that they're just wishing you well vs trying to strong-arm you into their religious beliefs.

America: Land of the Offended :rolleyes:
 
Bruce said:
I like listening to O'Reilly's radio show, but when he gets going on this War on Christmas thing, I have to turn him off. He really starts sounding like a crackpot. :mad:
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So when I see creches sold at these stores and I hear religously-themed Christmas carols (Drummer Boy, It Came Upon a Midnight Clear, etc.), at these stores, is that evidence that O'Reilly is winning the War on Christmas or evidence that O'Reilly is continuing to divorce himself from reality?
 
as an atheist, I find the term "holiday" offensive, I keep no days holy.

I have let many people know this, many choose to respect my atheist feelings by greeting me with the traditional- and non religious- "stop being such a miserable bastard, you sour faced old git".
 
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Ladewig said:
So when I see creches sold at these stores and I hear religously-themed Christmas carols (Drummer Boy, It Came Upon a Midnight Clear, etc.), at these stores, is that evidence that O'Reilly is winning the War on Christmas or evidence that O'Reilly is continuing to divorce himself from reality?
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The war won't truly be won until those other unmentionable heathan 'religions' chose another time of year to celebrate their so-called holidays and stop ruining Christmas for the rest of us red-blooded, Wal-Mart loving, Judeo-Christan, border protecting, O'Reily-listening consumers.

Whoa, did I say "us"?? :rolleyes:
 
brodski said:
as an atheist, I find the term "holiday" offensive, I keep no days holy.
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As an atheist, I find half the English language offensive because it has its roots in religion. I don't even like using the letter "T" because it resembles a cross (hiss, spit).

But I use it anyway because I'm very tolerant. :D
 
There was a good article in the guardian last week about the supposed war on christmas in the UK. Like the endless tabloid stories about "political correctness gone mad", and crazy EU regulations, it seems many of the stories about the war on christmas are fabrications, and even more are gross misrepresentations of the facts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/christmas2006/story/0,,1967367,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1
 
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Bruce said:
As an atheist, I find half the English language offensive because it has its roots in religion. I don't even like using the letter "T" because it resembles a cross (hiss, spit).
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Oh yeah? As an atheist, I find the human condition itself offensive, being that we seem to have a predisposition for religious belief hard-wired into us. So in protest, I spend as much of my time as possible sequestered in my room, boycotting many of the basic experiences of being human (experiencing joy, appreciating beauty, socializing pleasurably with other humans, etc.). Instead I spend my time focusing my chi energy to mutate my genes so that this defective trait will not be passed on to my offspring. You know, in case I ever meet a woman who finds me attractive.
 
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nails said:
what a nut. You would 'have to be crazy' to be offended by the phrase merry christmas, which excludes people, but its perfectly fine for christians to be offended by 'happy holidays' which includes everyone?
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Why does saying Merry Christmas exclude people? Even if you are an atheist and someone says to you, "Merry Christmas"...you are being politely INcluded. If you are the atheist, you can simply let it go, or respond with a smile and say, "thanks anyway, but I'm an atheist."

If someone came up to me and said "Happy Hannukah", I would feel great that someone spoke to me in a cheerful way offering me a festive greeting, even though Hannukah means nothing to me. I would feel they were INcluding me...not EXcluding me.
 
AAAAACCCCKKKK!!!!!!!

STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!

I actually agree with Iamme. :covereyes:

Marc
 
Has anyone heard if O'Reilly has made a stink about this:

Airport puts away holiday trees rather than risk being "exclusive"

By Jonathan Martin

Seattle Times staff reporter

As odd as it might seem, Sea-Tac Airport officials were hoping to avoid controversy when they had maintenance crews working Friday's graveyard shift dismantle nine holiday trees festooned with red ribbons and bows.

The airport managers ordered the plastic trees removed and boxed up after a rabbi asked to have an 8-foot-tall menorah displayed next to the largest tree in the international arrival hall.

Port of Seattle staff felt adding the menorah would have required adding symbols for other religions and cultures in the Northwest, said Terri-Ann Betancourt, the airport's spokeswoman. The holidays are the busiest season at the airport, she said, and staff didn't have time to play cultural anthropologists.

"We decided to take the trees down because we didn't want to be exclusive," she said. "We're trying to be thoughtful and respectful, and will review policies after the first of the year."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003470331_trees10m.html
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As much as I hate to admit it, I think the Rabbi in this case may be wrong; a menorah is a religious item whereas an X-mas tree is not. If we include a menorah, then we'd have to include religious symbols from all religions, which I don't really have a problem with. It'll open the gates to having the Hare Krishnas and the Moonies back in the airport though. :)

(edited to add) If war has indeed been declared on Christmas, then it's not the North Pole that has to worry (as Darth Rotor suggested), it's Uraguay. Don't forget, we don't retaliate on those who attack us. ;)
 
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