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davefoc
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Thanks for the link DaveMc.
I thought the article was interesting. I was surprised that Sean Penn could put aside his views and write such a balanced piece.
As to your point, I'm afraid I didn't get it. Does this apparent mistreatment of Palestinians say something about the Israeli/Palestine conflict?
Are you saying that Palestinians are such evil people or disliked people that even the Iraqis don't want them So when the Israelis take their land it's ok?
I read through your post a few times and I'm afraid I still wasn't able to figure out what your point was.
I thought the article was interesting. I was surprised that Sean Penn could put aside his views and write such a balanced piece.
As to your point, I'm afraid I didn't get it. Does this apparent mistreatment of Palestinians say something about the Israeli/Palestine conflict?
Are you saying that Palestinians are such evil people or disliked people that even the Iraqis don't want them So when the Israelis take their land it's ok?
I read through your post a few times and I'm afraid I still wasn't able to figure out what your point was.
Mycroft
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davefoc said:
Or maybe it's just an anecdote that illustrates that the greater Arab world doesn't really have the Palestinian-Arab peoples best interests at heart.
Dave, what's with this straw-man questioning style of argument? It seems like very post you've written on the Middle East for the past several months is a series of "Are you saying...?" statements followed by nonsense that cannot logically be inferred from the post you're responding to.
davefoc
Philosopher
Mycroft, Perhaps it might seem so.
But I see the my question to DaveMc as somewhat different from questions to you.
In DaveMc's case I thought he might be making a point which was not obvious to me. Yes I kinew he really didn't mean what I suggested in my sarcastic question, but I also wasn't sure at all what his point was if he had a point. Perhaps he was just putting forth something that was related to the discussion at hand with no point intended, I wasn't sure.
One way of interpretting that story is that Hussein, the humanitarian and peacemaker, was trying to provide homes for Palestinians and thereby do something that is often suggested as a solution to the Palestinian/Israel conflict by some of Israeli's supporters. These are the ones that tell us how many arabs there are and how few Israelis there are and if the arabs just took in there Palestinian brothers because the arabs have so much land and the Israelis have so little land the conflict would just die away. But I don't think that DaveMc's point was this.
Another way of interpreting the story was that this was evidence that just uprooting the Palestinians and sending them off to live with their Arab brothers might not be that easy a solution to implement because in fact the arabs are not just one big monolithic culture that will absorb the Palestinians without any problems. Perhaps that was DaveMc's point?
I genuinely don't know.
In your case, I made a concerted effort to understand what your justification for Israel's colonization policies was. I read what you wrote, I tried to understand it exactly. When I wrote down what I thought it was that you were saying and listed the parts of your postings that led me to my understanding of your views, you said I was wrong and would explain later why I was wrong. Apparently, you lost interest but for whatever reason you never did explain why my interpretations of your views were wrong.
But I see the my question to DaveMc as somewhat different from questions to you.
In DaveMc's case I thought he might be making a point which was not obvious to me. Yes I kinew he really didn't mean what I suggested in my sarcastic question, but I also wasn't sure at all what his point was if he had a point. Perhaps he was just putting forth something that was related to the discussion at hand with no point intended, I wasn't sure.
One way of interpretting that story is that Hussein, the humanitarian and peacemaker, was trying to provide homes for Palestinians and thereby do something that is often suggested as a solution to the Palestinian/Israel conflict by some of Israeli's supporters. These are the ones that tell us how many arabs there are and how few Israelis there are and if the arabs just took in there Palestinian brothers because the arabs have so much land and the Israelis have so little land the conflict would just die away. But I don't think that DaveMc's point was this.
Another way of interpreting the story was that this was evidence that just uprooting the Palestinians and sending them off to live with their Arab brothers might not be that easy a solution to implement because in fact the arabs are not just one big monolithic culture that will absorb the Palestinians without any problems. Perhaps that was DaveMc's point?
I genuinely don't know.
In your case, I made a concerted effort to understand what your justification for Israel's colonization policies was. I read what you wrote, I tried to understand it exactly. When I wrote down what I thought it was that you were saying and listed the parts of your postings that led me to my understanding of your views, you said I was wrong and would explain later why I was wrong. Apparently, you lost interest but for whatever reason you never did explain why my interpretations of your views were wrong.
a_unique_person
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Mycroft said:
Maybe if they just had their own homeland where they could seek their own destiny.
a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
Mycroft said:
That was tried, but once the first part of the negotiations was completed, they noticed that what was left was being taken from under their noses too.
a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
Now, you tell me what that means for a Palestinian state.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6595161/site/newsweek/