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W. tonight

corplinx said:


He has a point. Ever been at a job interview where they ask you "what is your greatest weakness" or some BS question like that?

The fact is, you could write a book argueing about what the worst mistake is. The reporter really should be ashamed for trying to play "stump the chief". This is the sad state of the washington press corp. Makes Helen Thomas look like a saint.

Seeing as how were are still in the fog of war so to speak, we might not know what our worst mistakes were for years.
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That's supposed to be their job. They ask things like that. What would prefer they ask? Something like "Do you support our troops?"
 
[personal-opinion]

Dubya does not deserve even a look at second term. His policies are hurting the USA all over, and it's becoming more and more obvious daily. The "doctors" are now spinning so fast they are blurred and are going nowhere. Dubya sounded like his speechwriters refused to write for him any more. His administration seem to be distancing themselves from him and his coterie. Is the end in sight?

The door, George, is thatta way. Don't let it hit yer ass on the way out. And don't come back.

[/personal-opinion]
 
a_unique_person said:


That's supposed to be their job. They ask things like that. What would prefer they ask? Something like "Do you support our troops?"
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Its possible to ask him a question about something non-negative and stump him also. Its supposed to be an orderly press conference where the questions are submitted beforehand.

A primetime TV press conference isn't the time for long introspective impromptu answers. Its not coffee talk time.

If you think Bush didnt get hard questions, then you didn't see the conference.
 
What sort of press conference is it when you have to submit your questions beforehand? Either he is capable of being the person in command, or he isn't, and needs to have every answer worked out for him by someone else.
 
Interesting quote from Elisabeth Bumiller about why the press didn't ask Bush any hard questions at his last press conference:
"I think we were very deferential because . . . it's live, it's very intense, it's frightening to stand up there. Think about it, you're standing up on prime-time live TV asking the president of the United States a question when the country's about to go to war. There was a very serious, somber tone that evening, and no one wanted to get into an argument with the president at this very serious time."
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Nice. I can't imagine how fast I would lose my job if I admitted that I didn't do it because it was "intense" and I was "frighten[ed]".
 
a_unique_person said:
What sort of press conference is it when you have to submit your questions beforehand? Either he is capable of being the person in command, or he isn't, and needs to have every answer worked out for him by someone else.
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Its a primetime television conference...... They are preempting many scheduled programs.

I'm listening to the replay now. I think I am 180 percent wrong on my earlier assumption about the mistake question (see, good skeptics admit when they are wrong.)

Bush of course is off the cuff awkward with the press corp and it wasn't very good compared to his forums with regular people where he seems much more relaxed.

I liked his reply to the several questions about "taking responsibility for 9-11". He said "Osama Bin Laden is responsible for 9-11".

If the 9-11 commission focused on that instead of trying to put the finger on Tenet\Clinton\Reno\Freeh\Rice specifically, maybe they would actually come up with some recommendations on preventing another 9-11.
 
a_unique_person said:


Except it wasn't his reply. He had the prepared questions, if I read this thread correctly, and was taught the script to recite.
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I'm not sure he has a script per se. Probably some talking points to redirect all negative questions (of which there were many).
 
Just as sad as Bush was, the washington press corp was sorrier. He allowed 15 people to ask questions. Half of them asked something to the extent of "will you accept blame for 9-11" and "please admit you were mistaken on WMD".

It was nice to hear those questions asked once for sh*ts and giggles, but it was sad that the other reporters couldnt think of anything more inciteful to ask.

This is the kind of stuff that affirms to right wing paranoids that the lazy media is actually an organized leftist organization.
 
a_unique_person said:
Just hearing him on the radio now. He sounds like he is totally lost, a man who is only just now realising what he has comitted the US to and that he has no idea what to do about it.
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"Totally lost", that sums it up for me too.
 
corplinx said:


I liked his reply to the several questions about "taking responsibility for 9-11". He said "Osama Bin Laden is responsible for 9-11".
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I think that the woo-woo tendency to look for "apologies" is juvenile. That said, GW failed to protect the people of the US. The ultimate responsibility is his. There are an infinitude of whiney reasons I am sure, but he failed. I submit that that is the first responsibility of any president.
 
I watched some of it, didn't impress me. One thing caught my attention. He went on and on about the "lesson learned from 9/11", and that lesson is that the U.S. cannot sit idly by while a threat develops to the point where we can have another large scale terrorist attack. Agreed. He also went on to say that Hussein had used chem weapons in the past. Agreed. Then he said Hussein was a threat. Agreed. All of those points together, however, make no excuse for invading Iraq and the question he was attempting to answer pertained to why we haven't found WMD yet. Crikey! He was so off the mark!

Iraq was, and remains, a threat. However, the magnitude of that threat, especially compared to other middle eastern nation-states, was not so great as to warrant our actions there.

And yes, I have never seen him, or a member of his top staff and aides, ever admit that the administration was wrong about anything, ever. This is a bad move, because it makes them sound either arrogant, ignorant, or possibly both.

All around, a mediocre speech from a president that I consider a disappointment. Too bad John Kerry is the only alternative with a chance of getting elected.
 
For those who missed the show, here is the transcript

SOMETHING FAMILIAR,
SOMETHING PECULIAR,
SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE --
A COMEDY TONIGHT!
SOMETHING APPEALING,
SOMETHING APPALLING,
SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE --
A COMEDY TONIGHT!

NOTHING WITH KINGS,
NOTHING WITH CROWNS,
BRING ON THE LOVERS,
LIARS AND CLOWNS!

OLD SITUATIONS,
NEW COMPLICATIONS,
NOTHING PORTENTOUS OR POLITE:
TRAGEDY TOMORROW,
COMEDY TONIGHT!

Tragedy tomorrow, comedy tonight!


SOMETHING EXPENSIVE,
SOMETHING OFFENSIVE,
SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE --
A COMEDY TONIGHT!
PASSIONS AND POTIONS,
CONSTANT COMMOTIONS,
SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE --
A COMEDY TONIGHT!

NOTHING WITH KINGS,
NOTHING WITH CROWNS,
BRING ON THE LOVERS,
LIARS AND CLOWNS!

OLD SITUATIONS,
NEW COMPLICATIONS,
NOTHING PORTENTOUS OR POLITE:
TRAGEDY TOMORROW --

COMEDY TONIGHT!

SOMETHING CONVULSIVE,
SOMETHING REPULSIVE,

SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE --
A COMEDY TONIGHT!
SOMETHING ESTHETIC,

SOMETHING BALLETIC,

SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE --

A COMEDY TONIGHT!

NOTHING WITH GODS,
NOTHING WITH FATE.

WEIGHTY AFFAIRS WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT.

NOTHING THAT'S FORMAL,

NOTHINGS THAT'S NORMAL,

NO RECITATIONS TO RECITE!

ALL

OPEN UP THE CURTAIN --
COMEDY TONIGHT!
 
Ed said:


I think that the woo-woo tendency to look for "apologies" is juvenile. .
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I disagree...when you are wrong you accept responsbility for your actions and say youre sorry.


Virgil
 
Virgil said:


I disagree...when you are wrong you accept responsbility for your actions and say youre sorry.


Virgil
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Sorry, I wan't clear. If one is responsible, yes. The notion of breast beating over something that you never had control over is silly, IMO.
 
corplinx said:
He has a point. Ever been at a job interview where they ask you "what is your greatest weakness" or some BS question like that?
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Of course, if you answered that question honestly you'd neverr get the job. The proper reply is "My biggest weqakness is that I try too hard, I'm too much of a perfectionist" or some other BS answer like that. If you said "I stay out late drinking and often come to work hung over" it would be honest, but unimpressive. ;)

Bush scares me, but Kerry scares me more at this point. Hold your nose and vote, as usual.
 
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