Very nice ufo video

That is a very mysterious piece of footage indeed! I really have no clue as to what it is and how it is caused, but I doubt if it's computer animation or a simple hoax. Thanks for posting it; it's the most interesting ufo I've seen so far.
 
Dunno. It seems sort of odd to me that the UFO's are pretty solidly stable in the middle of the frame while the landscape shakes like hell.
 
I call fake.

Examination of this image:

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shows that three or four of the "orbs", when overlayed on top of each other, align almost exactly. That's incredibly unlikely.

David
 
Here's a close up. Any differences between these two pairs can be chalked up to compression. Check out the two darker pixels at the top right of each of the red/green pair.

It's quite well done though, particularly the zooming. Probably video of a full moon, using that as the reference point to align the "orbs".

David
 
Here's a stack of the first few seconds. It doesn't tell you anything new about the UFO but it does show what are probably power lines, which might help someone identify the location. How many Walmarts are there in Phoenix? ;)

David
 
Well one question is what the cameraman happened to be doing out at night with a videocamera which is clearly mounted on a tripod.

Also the lights moving in look far too smooth to be real world - it looks animated in some way.

I'm not sure why Teylah doubts that it is computer animation - that's what it looks like to me.

I think davidhorman is right - the moon would be an excellent anchor point.
 
Nice video.

What about a computer animation proyected to a glass in front of the camera? Nicely done, if it is a fake, and intriguing if it is real. Oh, I also wonder, why cant we hear some sort of exclamations?? that would be a nice reality touch.
 
What about a computer animation proyected to a glass in front of the camera?
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You'd have to be careful not to move the camera too much, or parallax will give away that the lights are closer than they appear, but otherwise that's a pretty good idea.

David
 
davidhorman said:
You'd have to be careful not to move the camera too much, or parallax will give away that the lights are closer than they appear, but otherwise that's a pretty good idea.
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The movement of the camera seems to correspond very well with the blurring of the object. One thing that jumped out at me while watching the video is the movement of the 'orbs' when they joined with the big one in the middle. The movement seems way too smooth, much like computer animation.

It's such an interesting time, because with the processing power and high resolution of household computers, videos and photos can be faked much more convincingly than ever before. I think (hope) it will cause society to be much more skeptical, as they realize that they can not always count on what they see on screen.

Really interesting video though. If it's a fake, it's very very well done.
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
... I also wonder, why cant we hear some sort of exclamations?? that would be a nice reality touch.
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They are there. Maybe you need to turn the volume up?
 
mummymonkey said:
They are there. Maybe you need to turn the volume up?
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hehe, no they are not. I put myself in the scene, I would be partially delighted, amazed and scared! They act as if they were seeing an helicopter or a less interesting phenomena. The "oh, yeah, so what" kind of attitude, which seems unreal.
 
Well, it's clear to ANYONE that it's a fake. Here we have a video, shot of the night sky, and yet NO STARS ARE VISIBLE! Clearly done by the same group at NASA who made the same mistake with the starless photos of the "moon landing".

[/sarcasm&scorn&contempt]

- Timothy
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
hehe, no they are not. I put myself in the scene, I would be partially delighted, amazed and scared! They act as if they were seeing an helicopter or a less interesting phenomena. The "oh, yeah, so what" kind of attitude, which seems unreal.
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Well somebody says "Sh1t! Check that sh1t out!" which I took to be an exclamation. I take your point about the tone though, very hammy.
 
A couple of points on the video.

1. The blobs appear to be fixed with respect to the hillside.
2. The centre blob is much larger compared to the surrounding blobs in the first section than the last.
 
Its all too neat and sychronised for me.The movement too smooth as well!!;)
 
Ripley Twenty-Nine said:
The movement of the camera seems to correspond very well with the blurring of the object. One thing that jumped out at me while watching the video is the movement of the 'orbs' when they joined with the big one in the middle. The movement seems way too smooth, much like computer animation.

It's such an interesting time, because with the processing power and high resolution of household computers, videos and photos can be faked much more convincingly than ever before. I think (hope) it will cause society to be much more skeptical, as they realize that they can not always count on what they see on screen.

Really interesting video though. If it's a fake, it's very very well done.
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Yeah these are interesting time but the video processing still uses alot of techniques used ages ago. It's not like all the software will make everything by itself. Hollywood even with the most expensive computers and software can't make such nice images that you can't call them unreal.
And this video is nice .. i too have many doubts about it if it'sreal or not.. but it doesn't matter if it's real because even if it is, nothing much changes in my life.. but still it's nice :D I give it 5 stars out of 5 for a neat ufo video :D
 
Hollywood even with the most expensive computers and software can't make such nice images that you can't call them unreal.
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That's because a lot of what they do involves modelling highly complex, and often biological, objects. You can see, on some of the dinosaurs, in the first Jurassic Park that some of the muscles don't move in a realistic way, even if you're not a paleobiologist.

But then look at something like the radio telescope behind Jodie Foster near the beginning of Contact. It's computer generated, but you'd probably never know unless you were told.

This is blobs of light, and probably copies of a natural blob of light at that. I might give it a go myself at the next full moon, although I only have a digital camera that records AVIs, not a camcorder.

David
 
davidhorman said:
But then look at something like the radio telescope behind Jodie Foster near the beginning of Contact. It's computer generated, but you'd probably never know unless you were told.
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I don't know for sure, but I've read the opposite:

One more note on this one: when we see Ellie listening on her headphones, in the background is the Very Large Array (VLA), a collection of 27 large radio telescopes near Socorro, New Mexico. You can see a few of them in the image above. This is a real site, and they simply filmed the scene there. However, when the scene first appeared, the guy in the seat in front of me at the theater leaned over to a friend and said ``What a great effect!''. He thought it was a computer image! How cool is it that we astronomers have instruments so impressive that people think they aren't real? ;-)
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http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/movies/contact.html
 
Anyone interested wasting their time in searching out further confirming or refuting evidence should call (602) 262-7626, Phoenix Police Department General Information, and get in contact with the night shift desk, and ask very politely (cause they're unlikely to be very keen about this if something else *real* is going on) and ask if the police blotter for 10 p.m. 6/5/05 indicates any reports of strange lights in the sky.

Something visible from the lit parking lot of an open Walmart at 10 p.m. on a warm, clear June night? A "huge formation" of lights in the sky? Presumably visible over many dozens of square miles? Would have been seen by how many thousands of people? And how many calls to the police and local TV stations were there?

(Whenever a bigger than average meteor streaks over Colorado, my local police department gets at least a dozen calls.)

When somone else who isn't selling a book corroborates the story, then I'll at least think about taking the time to disprove it.

- Timothy
 
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