Vedic Astrology : Open Thread

I have been reading this thread from the beginning. I thought that I could add something to it as I have a unique perspective.

First let me introduce myself. I am from India. Like Manlondon I have also worked in the IT industry here. Also my parents are believers in astrology among other things. (I on the other hand am a sceptic).

I would like to address the prediction about travel abroad that Manlondon mentioned. From his statements he was working in an IT firm. Now in any Indian firm after 3+ years of experience there is a very good chance that a person can be sent abroad. I am speaking from personal experience but the percentage can be as high as 50%. So the prediction is not a prediction at all but an educated guess.
 
Welcome, Rishi. Your comment here and your future comments are welcomed and appreciated.

ManLondon, do you have a take on this?
 
Rishi said:
I have been reading this thread from the beginning. I thought that I could add something to it as I have a unique perspective.

First let me introduce myself. I am from India. Like Manlondon I have also worked in the IT industry here. Also my parents are believers in astrology among other things. (I on the other hand am a sceptic).

I would like to address the prediction about travel abroad that Manlondon mentioned. From his statements he was working in an IT firm. Now in any Indian firm after 3+ years of experience there is a very good chance that a person can be sent abroad. I am speaking from personal experience but the percentage can be as high as 50%. So the prediction is not a prediction at all but an educated guess.
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Welcome Rishi.
True, IT professionals in India are becoming more global now.
Though, I would not say it is as high as 50%. Many people work abroad but there are many more working in India.

I had been working only for under 1 year, in total, by that time.
Though, just for the sake of argument, I donot rule out the possibility that the astrologer knew about my profession. But he was specific in saying in the next 4 months - which I think is a short window of time.

I remember that I actually disagreed with him in that meeting because I myself did not think of this as a possibility.

My travel was something which I assume, even the management had not planned beforehand. Because the very first time they mentioned it to me was just 2 weeks before the actual travel. Also, I remember that the management explained the situation to me, which gave me the impression that it was not planned many days ago.

How do you read the other forecasts.
Do you have any personal experiences to add?
 
So, did Jupiter tell him you were going on a trip?

Did Saturn inform him of your career?

Or was it just a lucky, but educated, guess?
 
bagtaggar said:
So you acknowledge then that from a logical standpoint the notion of Astrology is absurd and holds no scientific water.
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Yes, I totally agree that using scientific knowledge and abilities that we have today, it seems total absurd.

bagtaggar said:
You also know that your own experience with Vedic Astrology is very questionable (in that both the subjective nature of the experience and the way in which information was obtained is questionable).
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No, from my personal experiences, I donot think Vedic Astrologer itself it rubbish. My personal experiences actually are forcing me test it further.
My experiences are not limited to ones mentioned here. For obvious reasons, I have discussed all of them in great details.
Though, there are some quacks as well.

bagtaggar said:
I suppose I just don't see what's left? What else is there that needs to be proven?
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I am sorry, I am not convinced enough to make up my mind fully to still exploring it, though not very actively recently.
 
ManLondon said:
Welcome Rishi.
True, IT professionals in India are becoming more global now.
Though, I would not say it is as high as 50%. Many people work abroad but there are many more working in India.

I had been working only for under 1 year, in total, by that time.
Though, just for the sake of argument, I donot rule out the possibility that the astrologer knew about my profession. But he was specific in saying in the next 4 months - which I think is a short window of time.

I remember that I actually disagreed with him in that meeting because I myself did not think of this as a possibility.

My travel was something which I assume, even the management had not planned beforehand. Because the very first time they mentioned it to me was just 2 weeks before the actual travel. Also, I remember that the management explained the situation to me, which gave me the impression that it was not planned many days ago.
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The number of IT professionals going abroad is quite large. The data is hard to get but the number is not insignificant.

The fact that your management decided 2 weeks earlier does not change the probability of that particular guess.

The fact that you disagreed also does not change the underlying probablity. All it shows is that the astrologer is a better reader of probablity than you are. We must take as a given that the astrologer knows your job, company name, experience etc. When your dad would have gone to meet him he would have told him proudly as to how well you were doing in the company. The travel abroad is not a bad guess.

Also the astrologer would not have made only one prediction. (Generally a session lasts from 15 mins to a few hours, depending on the astrologer). What were the other predictions?Is this the only prediction that has come true?
 
Rishi said:
We must take as a given that the astrologer knows your job, company name, experience etc. When your dad would have gone to meet him he would have told him proudly as to how well you were doing in the company. The travel abroad is not a bad guess.
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These exact incorrect extrapolating assumptions away from facts have already been answered previously.
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Actually, ManLondon, they haven't been answered. You have not shown in any fashion why we should think that the astrologer did not have information about you.

Everything you've posted indicates that the astrololger most probably did know the basics about you.

Denial doesn't change truth.
 
By manlondon..see post #8

I donot rule out the possibility that the astrologer may have gathered some information about me, but I doubt it because I also went to see this astrologer with my father.
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I know how Indian astrologers work. The fact that you went with your father increases the possibility that the astrologer knows about your background.

Any parent would like to tell other people what their son does. It is simple politeness. If the astrologer asks about you, what do you think that your father would say? would he say "I am sorry, but i will not give any information about my son to assure the impartiality of the reading". I think not.
 
Astrologers in India use widely differing styles of operation. So I would like to ask Manlondon a few questions about the astrologer that he went to.

1. Was it a one-one sitting or were there many people in the room?
2. Was your dad present during your session?
3. How long was a session?
4. Was the session (when the travel thing was mentioned) the first time you saw the astrologer? Did you go to him after that?
5. You have said that your dad took you to see the astrologer. I am assuming that he had a few sessions before that. How long before you went, did your dad know/meet this astrologer?

I think that the answers to these questions would go a long way in clarifying things.
 
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Well, there has been no reply for two days now.

I would just like to say the following.
To Manlondon,
Don't waste your time with astrologers. Astrology doesn't work. It is at best a waste of time and money. At worst it can push you into making unwise decisions and can waste years of your life.

To all others,
Indian astrology doesn't work. It is basically a form of guesswork. Cold reading is even not required most of the time. Astrologers give predictions based on the information that the people themselves give them.
 
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