US kidnapped Aristide

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Just heard it on the radio. He does not know where he is, but he has managed to contact some journalists. He was abducted by the US and forced onto a plane.

I don't know what to think of this, but it is extraordinary.
 
Looks like the news agencies could be getting to the bottom of things... though still difficult to see for all the flak that's flying around - after Venezuela 2002 though i don't think the media corps (of america) want to get it AS wrong AGAIN.


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Aristide tells AP the U.S. forced him out


By ELIOTT C. McLAUGHLIN, Associated Press
Last updated: 7:25 p.m., Monday, March 1, 2004


ATLANTA, Ga. -- Jean-Bertrand Aristide said in a telephone interview Monday that he was "forced to leave" Haiti by U.S. military forces who said they would "start shooting and killing" if he refused.

Aristide was put in contact with The Associated Press by the Rev. Jesse Jackson following a news conference, where the civil rights leader called on Congress to investigate Aristide's ouster.

When asked if he left Haiti on his own, Aristide quickly answered: "No. I was forced to leave.

"Agents were telling me that if I don't leave they would start shooting and killing in a matter of time," Aristide said during the brief interview via speaker phone. He spoke with a thick Haitian accent and was interrupted at times by static.

When asked who the agents were, he responded: "White American, white military.

"They came at night. ... There were too many, I couldn't count them," he added.

Aristide told reporters that he signed documents relinquishing power out of fear that violence would erupt in Haiti if he didn't comply with the demands of "American security agents."

"They were telling me that if I don't leave they would start shooting and be killing in a matter of time," he said.

Aristide said he was in his palace in Port-au-Prince when the military force arrived. He said he thought he was being taken to the Caribbean island of Antigua, but instead he has been exiled to the Central African Republic.

Aristide described the agents as "good, warm, nice," but added that he had no rights during his 20-hour flight to Africa.

Aristide's wife, Mildred, initiated Monday's telephone call, said Shelley Davis, a special assistant to Jackson. She said the reverend and the president's family have been close for about a decade.

Jackson said Congress should investigate whether the United States, specifically the CIA, had a role in the rebellion that led to Aristide's exile.

Jackson encouraged reporters to question where the rebels in Haiti got their guns and uniforms.

"Why would we immediately support an armed overthrow and not support a constitutionally elected government?" Jackson said.

Aristide, who fled Haiti under pressure from the rebels, his political opponents, the United States and France, arrived Monday in the Central African Republic, according to the country's state radio. He has claimed that he was abducted from Haiti by U.S. troops who accompanied him to Africa.

The White House, Pentagon and State Department have denied allegations that Aristide was kidnapped by U.S. forces eager for him to resign.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=224218&category=&BCCode=&newsdate=3/1/2004
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Er, as usual, AUP is jumping the gun. The US already denied he was kidnapped:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040301/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/us_haiti_20

One would think that being about to be stormed by rebel forces out to kill him was enough of a reason for him to leave, with no need for any "kidnapping".

What happened here is that Aristide hoped US intervention will save his regime, but was disappointed that the US would not intervene to save him from the rebels:

The administration did make clear to Aristide in the tumultuous hours before he left that he could not count on U.S. protection from rebels threatening to storm the presidential palace and kill him.

Apparently his "kidnapping" story is his way of "getting back" at the US for not saving his hold on power.
 
I'm STILL confused as to why America has seemingly refused to back a democratically elected government from being overthrown by drug dealers and armed thugs...can someone explain that little bit of business for me?
 
Zero said:
I'm STILL confused as to why America has seemingly refused to back a democratically elected government from being overthrown by drug dealers and armed thugs...can someone explain that little bit of business for me?
Is the answer already in your question, perhaps???
 
Skeptic said:
Er, as usual, AUP is jumping the gun. The US already denied he was kidnapped:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040301/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/us_haiti_20

One would think that being about to be stormed by rebel forces out to kill him was enough of a reason for him to leave, with no need for any "kidnapping".

What happened here is that Aristide hoped US intervention will save his regime, but was disappointed that the US would not intervene to save him from the rebels:



Apparently his "kidnapping" story is his way of "getting back" at the US for not saving his hold on power.

I already said, I don't now what to think of this, and it was just on the radio. Implication, perhaps I should have stated it, 24 hour rule.

I hold no sympathy for Aristide. I do wonder what it is about becoming a democratically elected president in Africa that seems to turn you into a despot.
 
Zep said:
Is the answer already in your question, perhaps???
Well, I know America loves to support drug dealers and armed thugs in general...I'd just like to know the reason why, at least in this case.
 
a_unique_person said:


Because they aren't commies?
So criminals and druglords are better than democratically-elected communists? On what planet?
 
Skeptic said:
Er, as usual, AUP is jumping the gun. The US already denied he was kidnapped.
I have no idea what happened, but just to your choice of words:

Is it a proof of anything that 'the US already denied' it? You know, sometimes things happen to be proven true even after being denied.

'I never had sex with that woman' comes to mind. :)
 
Zero said:
Well, I know America loves to support drug dealers and armed thugs in general...I'd just like to know the reason why, at least in this case.
So whatever happened to The War On Drugs<sup>TM</sup> and The War On Terrorism<sup>TM</sup>?? :)
 
Zep said:
So whatever happened to The War On Drugs<sup>TM</sup> and The War On Terrorism<sup>TM</sup>?? :)

"Wars of convenience"

When the going in the war on terrorism got tough, we went to Iraq. It was easier.

Now we go to Haiti.

It's a lot easier to roll over these pushover countries than to fight a real war against a tough enemy.
 
pgwenthold said:


"Wars of convenience"

When the going in the war on terrorism got tough, we went to Iraq. It was easier.

Now we go to Haiti.

It's a lot easier to roll over these pushover countries than to fight a real war against a tough enemy.

Are you smoking crack or hash so strong its made you retarded? At first I wrote a 500 word essay explaining why you are wrong. Then I figured out it would do no good.
 
corplinx said:


Are you smoking crack or hash so strong its made you retarded? At first I wrote a 500 word essay explaining why you are wrong. Then I figured out it would do no good.

Perhaps you should write a 500 word essay on why the US supports drug lords in the overthrow of a democratically elected government.
 
a_unique_person said:


I already said, I don't now what to think of this, and it was just on the radio. Implication, perhaps I should have stated it, 24 hour rule.

I hold no sympathy for Aristide. I do wonder what it is about becoming a democratically elected president in Africa that seems to turn you into a despot.

Me too, but Haiti isn't in Africa. It's in the Carribean.
 
Democratically elected the first time. After that, it all went down the tubes.
 
Zero said:
I'm STILL confused as to why America has seemingly refused to back a democratically elected government from being overthrown by drug dealers and armed thugs...can someone explain that little bit of business for me?

Aristide is a drug dealer who employs gangs of thugs, is their story, I believe.
 

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