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Understanding the Liberal Mindset

Roger Ramjets said:
You're right, It's not a joke. Conservatives don't do jokes. They don't laugh for joy or happiness, but to dominate over their enemies. Once you understand that, the idea of a Tony Stark-like Elon Musk saving Texans from the cold with a 'cobbled-together mech' makes perfect sense.

"How is it putting down the libs?", you say. The libs say Musk is a stupid grifter who never actually created anything himself. This 'joke' is a direct refutation of that. The laughter cames as they imagine libs being triggered by it.
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You have to have stock in Tesla.

Musk didn't create Tesla. He's not an engineer. He's not a software developer. As CEO, he made certain decisions that made a huge positive difference. I don't question that. Is he worth the absurd compensation package he was given? No. Not even close. For a while now, Musk has been propping up Tesla's stock price by over-promising and under-delivering. He's closer to a carnival barker than a serious CEO.

I'm worried about the bath that many investors will suffer when Tesla's bubble burst. Might be 6 months from now. Might even take 5 years. But I'm betting there will be lots of pension funds and 401Ks wiped out. But he and other early investors will have sold enough stock by then, they'll just grin over how much they made.
 
The source for that video is the Daily Wire, which is the home of Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, and PragerU. Here's what they say on their About page:

DailyWire+ is the streaming home of The Daily Wire, Jordan Peterson, Movies, PragerU, and Bentkey. We’re one of America’s fastest-growing media companies and counter-cultural outlets for news, opinion, and entertainment. We’re building the future you want to see.

The Daily Wire does not claim to be without bias. We’re opinionated, we’re noisy, and we’re having a good time.

Conceived by Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boreing, The Daily Wire was meant to be something unique in the right-of-center media landscape — a truly for-profit business with an emphasis on distribution and marketing.
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It's not a news site. It's propaganda - a for-profit right-wing distribution hub for rightist opinion.
 
jt512 said:
That really illustrates the moral derangement of wokeism.
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I think it illustrates the rightist bias of the Daily Wire. The woman in the video was trying to express some complicated emotions that she didn't fully understand and didn't have a lot of words for. Not everybody can be eloquent and articulate when a microphone and a camera is in front of their face, especially in an emotionally-charged situation. The "reporter" and especially @Breaking911 gave it the harshest possible description after pulling only a very few words out of what she actually said.

Here's what she actually said, transcribed by me. The original question from the "reporter" is not in the video, nor is the first part of her reply.

Woman: ...so I'm, I'm just walking around kind of just day side [?], 'cause I... I gotta... it's like... I don't know if it's the right thing to do. It feels kind of wrong, being here, in some way, I don't know why, um... [uncomfortable laugh].

"Reporter": why do you think...

Woman: I dunno, um... (pause) I don't know, like (pause)... where that stems from. Um... like, I don't... I mean part of it is being, like, a white woman, that... (pause) I'm privileged and I have that privilege, um...

"Reporter": *nods*

Woman: So I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary, um. Black and brown people have been experiencing this...

"Reporter": Yeah.

Woman: ...for a long time. Um, this isn't new for them, and so, um, I don't know if that makes any sense, in that way, um...

"Reporter": How did you decide that you should be here, or are you still figuring that out?

Woman: Uh, well I work, like, two miles from here, so um, driving by, just, you know, like I'm here, in two miles I can stop, um.

(video ends)
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@Breaking911 frames this emotional scene as "Leftist woman says she “feels wrong” for paying her respects to Renee Good because she’s a “white woman who’s privileged.”" I'm not going to say it's dishonest, exactly, because she did actually say those words, but there is a lot of context there that this pithy summary is missing.

Also, the word "leftist" was added to the description of the video when it was re-tweeted by @Breaking911. It wasn't in the original tweet. Furthermore, MediaBiasFactCheck.com rates Breaking911 as a "Questionable Source", "Junk News", and points out that its failed fact checks are "Too many to list".

  • Overall, we rate Breaking911 a Questionable Source based on the promotion of clickbait headlines that do not fully match the stories, the publication of false information, and a complete lack of transparency.
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they're just trying to make fun of some random woman stumbling through a thought. people like ben shapiro and stephen crowder and the late great charlie kirk made their conservative bones debating these kind of people and clipping their worst moments for content that can be shared to show how stupid leftists are.
 
What do these three politicians have in common?

Theodore Roosevelt,
Fiorella LA Guardia
Pete McCloskey
 
acbytesla said:
You have to have stock in Tesla.

Musk didn't create Tesla. He's not an engineer. He's not a software developer. As CEO, he made certain decisions that made a huge positive difference. I don't question that. Is he worth the absurd compensation package he was given? No. Not even close. For a while now, Musk has been propping up Tesla's stock price by over-promising and under-delivering. He's closer to a carnival barker than a serious CEO.

I'm worried about the bath that many investors will suffer when Tesla's bubble burst. Might be 6 months from now. Might even take 5 years. But I'm betting there will be lots of pension funds and 401Ks wiped out. But he and other early investors will have sold enough stock by then, they'll just grin over how much they made.
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Prior to his foray into politics, Musk managed to be both overrated and underrated at the same time. There was a lot of irrational exuberance about him as well as a lot of over-the-top hate. I at least understand the hate related to politics, I never quite got the hate he got just for being a famous tech ceo and rich. I've got a friend that spent a good 5 years trying to short Tesla. That bubble has to at least deflate at some point. It's been a bit but there was a while when Tesla was more "valuable" than Ford or GM but they'd only managed to manufacture a hundred or so cars.

As a CEO he definitely seems to be more of a hype man that actual executive. And don't get me started on the boring company and hyperloop.
 
ahhell said:
Prior to his foray into politics, Musk managed to be both overrated and underrated at the same time. There was a lot of irrational exuberance about him as well as a lot of over-the-top hate. I at least understand the hate related to politics, I never quite got the hate he got just for being a famous tech ceo and rich. I've got a friend that spent a good 5 years trying to short Tesla. That bubble has to at least deflate at some point. It's been a bit but there was a while when Tesla was more "valuable" than Ford or GM but they'd only managed to manufacture a hundred or so cars.

As a CEO he definitely seems to be more of a hype man that actual executive. And don't get me started on the boring company and hyperloop.
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I use to think he was great. Musk actually replied to my emails after he became the CEO of Tesla. I used to follow corporate employment announcements and I would send emails and letters to anyone who might have received an important tech job. It was part of a networking strategy. I sent so many of those and almost no one acknowledged any of them. It didn't lead to any business from Tesla. Still, I remember him responding.

But he really lost his luster with Tesla's solar company, hyperloop, and the Boring company which I view pretty much as a joke. The same went for the Cybertruck. I knew that would never sell well. It was like he knew nothing about the history of cars. I view Musk very much like I view Trump. Although a bit smarter. They succeed through hubris. Trump understands and lives by this. The facts are entirely irrelevant. I don't usually see Musk double down on stupid the way Trump does. But he does oversell constantly.
 
musk is actually a pretty bad person. it wasn't too surprising to see him getting involved in maga politics and then pulling what he did with doge if you were following his misdeeds for any length of time before that. so if you think he was hated because he was a tech ceo and rich, that's not really the case. that's the rich guy with a fragile ego story they tell themselves. they have irrational haters, it's not that they've done anything wrong or deserve criticism. i mean, do you ever hear the guy apologizing? what is the richest man in the world's most charitable deed, do you think?

i guess one thing you could say about the liberal mindset perhaps is that they seem to value things like integrity and character much more highly than whatever you'd like to call their counterparts, who seem to have forgotten that and now there's fraudster criminals stealing everything that's not bolted down and pardoning the ones that get caught. i think that's a huge problem, but nobody really wants to talk about that.
 
dirtywick said:
musk is actually a pretty bad person. it wasn't too surprising to see him getting involved in maga politics and then pulling what he did with doge if you were following his misdeeds for any length of time before that. so if you think he was hated because he was a tech ceo and rich, that's not really the case. that's the rich guy with a fragile ego story they tell themselves. they have irrational haters, it's not that they've done anything wrong or deserve criticism.
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I've often thought that you can tell something about someone by how their nearest-and-dearest relate to them. Muck's kids and exes seem to have little positive to say of him. Those who know him best don't seem to like him much. His biggest fans are people who've never met him.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I've often thought that you can tell something about someone by how their nearest-and-dearest relate to them. Muck's kids and exes seem to have little positive to say of him. Those who know him best don't seem to like him much. His biggest fans are people who've never met him.
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I have no idea what Musk's relatives have to say about him. But I do think he's what I hate the most about some people in my profession. He has a deliberate disregard for the truth. That a sale justifies every lie.

I'm a salesperson. Have been for 30 years. I know the type. Now everyone lies a little. White lies about certain things. I assume you might be lying to me in a negotiation. But from my perspective you are bluffing. Like in poker. I might very well lie to you about my price. I think it's my job to sell my product for the best price I can get. And it's your job to make the best deal on the products you purchase. But I'm never going to lie to you about the features of my product. That's a step too far. I'm not going to cheat you and leave you hanging. One it isn't right. And two, it's not conducive to you ever buying from me again.

I know far too many salespeople who only care about themselves and their commission. Individuals who will cheat their mother if it is advantageous to them.

Musk tells a good story. But he's only doing it for personal gain.
 
he's got like 15 kids with like 5 women, and like 10 ceo jobs. wouldn't like him so much if he was black. and remember he used that little one with the weird name, but not the video game name but the sci fi name, to hang around the oval office as a bullet shield. then he watched him pick his nose in front of trump and trump looked pissed but didn't say ◊◊◊◊. so he did that to that kid, that was weird.

then there's the video game stuff. that stuff is so funny if you don't know about it. and not the getting caught cheating stuff, which is really funny, but the live stream where he was showing off how great his satellite internet is and people figured out what server he was on and started spamming the chat that he'll die alone, and then he pretended that he lost the connection. the cheating stuff is also ridiculous though.
 
dirtywick said:
he's got like 15 kids with like 5 women, and like 10 ceo jobs. wouldn't like him so much if he was black. and remember he used that little one with the weird name, but not the video game name but the sci fi name, to hang around the oval office as a bullet shield. then he watched him pick his nose in front of trump and trump looked pissed but didn't say ◊◊◊◊. so he did that to that kid, that was weird.

then there's the video game stuff. that stuff is so funny if you don't know about it. and not the getting caught cheating stuff, which is really funny, but the live stream where he was showing off how great his satellite internet is and people figured out what server he was on and started spamming the chat that he'll die alone, and then he pretended that he lost the connection. the cheating stuff is also ridiculous though.
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Is this stuff true, or an exaggeration? I have been judging him strictly on Starlink and Tesla.
 
acbytesla said:
Is this stuff true, or an exaggeration? I have been judging him strictly on Starlink and Tesla.
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He's a real piece of work, for sure.

He was married to Justine Wilson in 2000, with whom he had six children. The first (born 2002) died from SIDS. They then used IVF, having twins in 2004 and triplets in 2006. They divorced in 2008. The elder of his twins is Vivian Jenna Wilson, a trans woman, and she has at this time had the most to say about him.

He subsequently married Talulah Riley in 2008, then they divorced in 2012, and remarried in 2013, and divorced in 2016.

Musk and Canadian musician Grimes have three children, the eldest of which is named X Æ A-12. Their second child was born by surrogacy.

He also has four children with Shivon Zilis - twins via IVF in 2021, a child in 2024 via surrogacy and a child born in 2025.

Allegedly, he has other children with other people with whom he has had varying levels of affairs, including Ashley St. Clair. In 2025 he wrote that though he is unsure whether it is his child, he had paid her $2.5 million and would continue paying her $500,000 per year.

Musk family - Wikipedia

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acbytesla said:
Is this stuff true, or an exaggeration? I have been judging him strictly on Starlink and Tesla.
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Why would you not judge him on Twitter?
Buying it is the thing he did pretty much completely on his own. And he posts on it night and day, getting more racist all the time.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
You're right, It's not a joke. Conservatives don't do jokes. They don't laugh for joy or happiness, but to dominate over their enemies. Once you understand that, the idea of a Tony Stark-like Elon Musk saving Texans from the cold with a 'cobbled-together mech' makes perfect sense.

"How is it putting down the libs?", you say. The libs say Musk is a stupid grifter who never actually created anything himself. This 'joke' is a direct refutation of that. The laughter cames as they imagine libs being triggered by it.
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I thought his first target market was "the libs" in a USA weird sense?
 
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