Trump's Solar Wall

McHrozni said:
With the design I had in mind it would be more of a ramp with 25° incline, that's about 47% incline. It's very steep for a road, but not steep for a hill at all.

But hey, if we agree the wall is useless as a barrier to stop illegal immigrants and Trump still wants his wall, it might as well be used as the worlds' largest solar project instead. You could also install flywheels under the solar panels to act as grid-level storage. If you're going to make stupid projects of mass engineering you might as well make them useful for something :)

McHrozni
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with the wall having its sides at the right angle, you would have the top diagram, using them as a roof, the bottom- excuse the crudity of my drawings, the angles are about right but the lines are a little shaky....
 

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Dabop said:
with the wall having its sides at the right angle, you would have the top diagram, using them as a roof, the bottom- excuse the crudity of my drawings, the angles are about right but the lines are a little shaky....
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That would be even grander :D

Trump would love it. But if you're going to build the wall that way, you might as well make it three times wider - 150 m instead of 47 m, place flywheels and hydroelectric power plants underneath and forego all coal, gas and nuclear power used for electric generation and still have something left over for electric cars :)

If stupid things are to be built they might as well serve a purpose.

McHrozni
 
Well the top version isnt that good a design- Mexicans can get in by bringing a rope or ladder, walk up the panels and drop down into the US- It would be good at stopping US people fleeing the trumpocrasy from escaping into Mexico however.....

Bottom design is more effective, using panels as a `roof' on top

Heres a thought- insulate the steel beams used in its construction and run them along the sides of the walls exposed,carrying current at H.V (500kv or so)

Multiple uses of design elements- heavy steel beams would carry large currents with lower losses (large CSA), would be used as structural elements to support the wall, and a deterrent to climbing it (being fried to a crisp if you try and scale the wall)

A win/win/win situation!!!!
 
McHrozni said:
That would be even grander :D

Trump would love it. But if you're going to build the wall that way, you might as well make it three times wider - 150 m instead of 47 m, place flywheels and hydroelectric power plants underneath and forego all coal, gas and nuclear power used for electric generation and still have something left over for electric cars :)

If stupid things are to be built they might as well serve a purpose.

McHrozni
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Here's an idea....

make it several hundred feet high near the coastlines, pump saltwater up to the top and let it gravity feed inland, while simultaneously using the salty water to carry high voltage supplies back to the coasts (like our trans tasman sea link) and at whatever points need fresh water, use a relatively small desalination plant powered by the solar panels to make brackish water for irrigation, or fresh water for drinking

(It makes more sense than anything trumps suggested so far lol) and he said Mexico was going to pay for it, so might as well pad the bill as much as you can- thats a trump tradition, that and not paying the contractors (as if he'd pay a cent towards this ego stroking monument)

Plus he could brag about it being bigger and better than the great wall of China LOL
 
Dabop said:
Here's an idea....

make it several hundred feet high near the coastlines, pump saltwater up to the top and let it gravity feed inland, while simultaneously using the salty water to carry high voltage supplies back to the coasts (like our trans tasman sea link) and at whatever points need fresh water, use a relatively small desalination plant powered by the solar panels to make brackish water for irrigation, or fresh water for drinking

(It makes more sense than anything trumps suggested so far lol) and he said Mexico was going to pay for it, so might as well pad the bill as much as you can- thats a trump tradition, that and not paying the contractors (as if he'd pay a cent towards this ego stroking monument)

Plus he could brag about it being bigger and better than the great wall of China LOL
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If you're going to build that high near the coastline, you might as well add some pumped-storage hydroelectric plants under the wall. That way USA could really achieve energy independence and have the right to line up the pesky environmentalists against the wall for good measure!

McHrozni
 
Put in a couple of Starbucks into the Wall, use the solar power for free wifi and phone-charger sockets and Mexicans won't want make it further than the wall anyway.

;)
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Put in a couple of Starbucks into the Wall, use the solar power for free wifi and phone-charger sockets and Mexicans won't want make it further than the wall anyway.

;)
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You could use it as a form of rehabilitative prison labor for prisoners as well. You know what I have in mind. Have them wear all black.

McHrozni
 
Jim_MDP said:
Are you imagining many wheelchair bound illegals making the desert crossing currently? :D


And the famous SF street is Lombard. About 27 degree incline IIRC.
Oddly... neither the curviest nor the steepest street in SF.
Just "famous" for its design and visual appeal (wouldn't want to live there though).

And despite being a one-way... a few of us have driven it both directions. :p
(and the sidewalks of Market St. too... late night in the city can be fun)
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I think he was referring more to the streets like California (near Grant), that are steep enough that the cross-streets cause obvious slope changes (and cool car ramps for movies). Lombard is just twisty down a steep slope.
 
Dabop said:
See I really didnt have much to do with the USA during school, our schools tended to focus more on Oz and pommie history unsurprisingly. It wasnt until the internet became more common I realised California was on the west coast, for some reason I had always thought it was on the east coast lol

I know (well vaguely know) where Washington, LA, the Florida keys and San Fransisco all are, (altho I might have to check up to be sure) but apart from that, saying a city name- or even a state name means absolutely nothing to me (well I know Alaska and Hawaeii (sp??)- and the Burmuda triangle)
:-)

And Texas isnt as big as I expected, its smaller than the state I was born in, and less than a third of the size of the one I live in, and its not the biggest state here either- a lot of the states over there are smaller than some local council areas over here lol
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I got in trouble for asking a poster whether WA meant Western Australia or Washington (state).
 
Dabop said:
Well the top version isnt that good a design- Mexicans can get in by bringing a rope or ladder, walk up the panels and drop down into the US- It would be good at stopping US people fleeing the trumpocrasy from escaping into Mexico however.....

Bottom design is more effective, using panels as a `roof' on top

Heres a thought- insulate the steel beams used in its construction and run them along the sides of the walls exposed,carrying current at H.V (500kv or so)

Multiple uses of design elements- heavy steel beams would carry large currents with lower losses (large CSA), would be used as structural elements to support the wall, and a deterrent to climbing it (being fried to a crisp if you try and scale the wall)

A win/win/win situation!!!!
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Presumably plenty of electricity for an electric fence?
 
GodMark2 said:
I think he was referring more to the streets like California (near Grant), that are steep enough that the cross-streets cause obvious slope changes (and cool car ramps for movies). Lombard is just twisty down a steep slope.
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You're making me homesick.

That describes about half the streets in Morgantown, WV. Pretty much all the ones that are going up and down the hills.

I lived about five blocks uphill from the high school, and after a fresh snowfall I could ski down to school in a couple of minutes with a few really cool jumps along the way. :p

Cars have to slow down over a lot of them to keep from bottoming out. (Nature's speed bumps?)

There are steps in more than a few of the sidewalks.

People who visit from San Francisco marvel at how steep everything is.
 
Jim_MDP said:
Are you imagining many wheelchair bound illegals making the desert crossing currently? :D


And the famous SF street is Lombard. About 27 degree incline IIRC.
Oddly... neither the curviest nor the steepest street in SF.
Just "famous" for its design and visual appeal (wouldn't want to live there though).

And despite being a one-way... a few of us have driven it both directions. :p
(and the sidewalks of Market St. too... late night in the city can be fun)
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Actually the hill that Lombard street is on has a 27 percent grade or about a 15 degree slope. The twists and turns in the street make the slope even less.
 
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