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Trump's Second Term

dudalb said:
Or Maybe the Democrats made a number of mistakes in 2024. I think Biden's deicision to run for relectin had terrible consquences.
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Not really an "or" there. Certainly, there were real problems there, as there will always be in real life, but they pale in comparison with Trump and the Republicans' problems.
 
Link to a list of the organisations the US has withdrawn from

I see a pattern

They include:
International Institute for Justice and the Rule of Law.
International Institute for Democracy and. Electoral Assistance.
International Law Commission.
Global Counterterrorism Forum.
Global Forum on Cyber Expertise.
Partnership for Atlantic Cooperation.
Regional Cooperation Agreement on Combatting Piracy and Armed Robbery against Ships in Asia.
Pan American Institute of Geography and History.

www.whitehouse.gov

Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States

MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov
 
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UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) — Economic Commission for Africa;

(iii) ECOSOC — Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean;

(iv) ECOSOC — Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific;

(v) ECOSOC — Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia;



US is getting out of ECOSOC?

When people will pick a day when the US became a second-rate Power in the World, they might pick this day.
 
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Gawdzilla Sama said:
Well, given that most people can be really really stupid even on critically important issues it would just follow, ja?
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Exactly, Nothing can shield a nation from really stupid voters in great numbers.
And it is not like countries with Parliamentarian systems have not often falling into the pit. Appretnly their check and balances did not work any better then ours did.
 
Aridas said:
Not really an "or" there. Certainly, there were real problems there, as there will always be in real life, but they pale in comparison with Trump and the Republicans' problems.
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Yes, Biden and Harris were both much better choices, but that still you have to look onthe results; Trump won.
And I for one blame Biden for hanging on too long as a major reason for what happened.
 
dudalb said:
Exactly, Nothing can shield a nation from really stupid voters in great numbers.
And it is not like countries with Parliamentarian systems have not often falling into the pit. Appretnly their check and balances did not work any better then ours did.
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Leadership is the only real hope. The sheeple will follow-my-leader right off a cliff, or to safety, depending on how the leader pulls them.

In most cases. There's no accounting for stupidity. With luck the populace will go with a non-stupid leader.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
When people will pick a day when the US became a second-rate Power in the World, they might pick this day.
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All I can think of is how I've recently run into my fair share of people insisting the US is the greatest country in the world. What they all seem to have in common is they seem to be incredibly thin-skinned about it, to the point where they will get really frustrated with you if you doubt this or ask too many questions. It's almost as if they base this idea on paper-thin narratives rather than solid facts, or they know it's not as solid an idea as they like to think. Or they just use it as an excuse to deflect criticism: 'Oh yeah? Well if it's so bad, why do so many people want to come here?'
 
Darat said:
And if adapt a
Euro style Parlimentary system, it will be impossible for a dictator to come to power, right?
No system is better then the people running it, no system is safe from voters being really, really, stupid.
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What's one of those?
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Well, he could be referring to something like the westminster system (used in the UK and adopted in places like Canada.)

Frankly, I think Trump would be even more dangerous under the westminster system. Under the US system, he does have to contend with congress to at least some degree. (Granted the GOP is largely acting like trained seals to applaud everything Trump does, but in theory they could grow a spine and oppose him.) But if Trump were head of government in the westminster system, not only would he have executive power, but he would also have control over the legislature.
 
Segnosaur said:
Well, he could be referring to something like the westminster system (used in the UK and adopted in places like Canada.)

Frankly, I think Trump would be even more dangerous under the westminster system. Under the US system, he does have to contend with congress to at least some degree. (Granted the GOP is largely acting like trained seals to applaud everything Trump does, but in theory they could grow a spine and oppose him.) But if Trump were head of government in the westminster system, not only would he have executive power, but he would also have control over the legislature.
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But who has even suggested this? And there are about 50 countries in Europe all of which have different democratic (most of the 50 are democratic a handful are pseudo-democratic) - there is no "euro style parliamentary system" - every one of those countries has a different form of governance.
 
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Republicans should be ashamed of the Senators that just voted with Democrats in attempting to take away our Powers to fight and defend the US.

What do we think the important vote will be next week?
Give himself total powers to declare war?

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
Republicans should be ashamed of the Senators that just voted with Democrats in attempting to take away our Powers to fight and defend the United States of America. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Rand Paul, Josh Hawley, and Todd Young should never be elected to office again. This Vote greatly hampers American Self Defense and National Security, impeding the President's Authority as Commander in Chief. In any event, and despite their "stupidity," the War Powers Act is Unconstitutional, totally violating Article II of the Constitution, as all Presidents, and their Departments of Justice, have determined before me. Nevertheless, a more important Senate Vote will be taking place next week on this very subject.
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