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Trump's Second Term

I saw that Bannon was speculating that Trump could take a third term in 2028, because his two terms were not consecutive. I think that will be moot because I don't think he'll be around two years from now anyway.
 
alfaniner said:
I saw that Bannon was speculating that Trump could take a third term in 2028, because his two terms were not consecutive.
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Could Trump serve a 3rd term even without this interpretation (and while it seems to a reasonable person that if the authors of the 22nd amendment had wanted to limit the restriction to refer only to consecutive terms they would have said so, but I don't have a lot of confidence in SCOTUS)? My scenario:

The political parties have a lot of leeway in deciding how to select their nominees. The Republican Party could set up a selection process that is highly favorable to Trump. (The question of whether a person who is according to the constitution ineligible to serve as president can run in a primary election has yet to be decided.)

In the general election, the voters don't actually vote for the president but rather for electors, so the eligibility of the candidates is not relevant.

The last check would be the Electoral College. But what is to stop the Electoral College for voting for an ineligible person? The Democrats could object to the votes based on Trump being ineligible, but if the Republicans had a majority in both houses then they could reject the objections.

Where did I go wrong with my scenario?
 
If they have sufficient control of the House, they could just elect him Speaker (being a member of the House isn't actually a requirement) and then a Republican President and Vice President whose loyalty to him is greater than their own desire for power both resign, and he's next in the line of succession.
 
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He's serving cookies with pictures of himself getting shot.

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What an absolute clown.
Which seems to be par for the course for fascist authoritarians.

Hitler was incredibly lazy. According to his aide Fritz Wiedemann, even when he was in Berlin he wouldn't get out of bed until after 11 a.m., and wouldn't do much before lunch other than read what the newspapers had to say about him, the press cuttings being dutifully delivered to him by Dietrich.

He was obsessed with the media and celebrity, and often seems to have viewed himself through that lens. He once described himself as "the greatest actor in Europe," and wrote to a friend, "I believe my life is the greatest novel in world history." In many of his personal habits he came across as strange or even childish—he would have regular naps during the day, he would bite his fingernails at the dinner table, and he had a remarkably sweet tooth that led him to eat "prodigious amounts of cake" and "put so many lumps of sugar in his cup that there was hardly any room for the tea."

He was deeply insecure about his own lack of knowledge, preferring to either ignore information that contradicted his preconceptions, or to lash out at the expertise of others. He hated being laughed at, but enjoyed it when other people were the butt of the joke (he would perform mocking impressions of people he disliked). But he also craved the approval of those he disdained, and his mood would quickly improve if a newspaper wrote something complimentary about him.

Little of this was especially secret or unknown at the time. It's why so many people failed to take Hitler seriously until it was too late, dismissing him as merely a "half-mad rascal" or a "man with a beery vocal organ." In a sense, they weren't wrong. In another, much more important sense, they were as wrong as it's possible to get.

Hitler's personal failings didn't stop him having an uncanny instinct for political rhetoric that would gain mass appeal, and it turns out you don't actually need to have a particularly competent or functional government to do terrible things.
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Doesn't this remind you of someone 🙄 ?
 
Seems that, contrary to the assurances of the "moderate Republicans", the GOP is falling into lockstep with Trump:

Senate Republicans who had seemed wary of confirming some of Trump's more controversial political appointees, such as Fox News host Pete Hegseth for secretary of defence, are falling in line as they face increasing pressure not just from Trump but from his supporters, who warn of dire consequences for the uncooperative.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Trump buoyant as big business and former foes fall in line

Many of the president-elect's former critics and adversaries have made overtures since his election victory.
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My real contempt is saved for centrist Democrats:

Even some Democrats are reaching out to the incoming Trump administration. Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman said he would consider backing Hegseth and has expressed support for some Trump picks.
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Even Bernie Sanders seems to have lost his frikkin mind.

On Sunday, independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders suggested he would be open to supporting vaccine sceptic Robert F Kennedy Jr as Trump's health secretary, saying he shared concerns about the health impacts of processed food.
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IMO that's like supporting a certain Austrian corporal because you share the opinion that dogs are neat - glossing over his views on certain types of humans.
 
Dr.Sid said:
To be consistently wrong you have to know what's right. On yes-no questions perfectly stupid people should be right in 50% of the cases.
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To be consistently wrong, you just need to be living in your own world. T****y has never once in his life had to face up to reality. He always has someone else to protect him (largely from himself).
 
Trans people no longer a threat and schools no longer turning boys into girls on a daily basis
aaron.rupar
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"Trump barely pretends to understand the broad outlines, much less the nuances, of his own agenda. Pressed on actual issues, he flatters himself and talks about how great he’s going to make everything. But he offers few details, and when he does, they're conspiracy theories and lies."
www.publicnotice.co

Trump's Time interview provides a sobering reminder

He's staggeringly unfit. Always has been. Always will be.
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The most egregious example involves inflation and grocery prices. Throughout the campaign, Trump insisted that he would not just slow inflation but would actually create deflation. In October, he said on camera that his policies would “rapidly drive prices down” and “bring your grocery bill way down.” But in the Time interview, Trump reverses himself (without of course acknowledging that he’s doing so).
Time correspondents asked Trump, “If the prices of groceries don’t come down, will your presidency be a failure?” He demurred, pointing to practical limits on presidential power which he pretended do not exist during the campaign.

One of the most strikingly bizarre moments in the interview is when Trump tries to present himself as a moderate of sorts on trans issues, despite being fresh off a campaign where he spent millions on viciously transphobic ads. On the stump he spread dangerous lies about trans health care, claiming that public schools are secretly referring students for gender-affirming surgery without parental consent or notification. (This literally never happens.)

Yet, when asked about policies affecting trans people by Time, Trump downplayed them and suggested the country should be focused on more important issues.

“It’s a very small number of people we’re talking about, and it’s ripped apart our country,” he fulminated — as if his own campaign hadn’t done everything it could to inflame things.
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Trump now says that for every new proposed regulation he's going to insist on getting rid of ten existing ones! Yeah, ◊◊◊◊ safety!!!
 
alfaniner said:
Yeah, ◊◊◊◊ safety!!!
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Whenever right-wing politicians talk about eliminating rules, and reducing bureaucracy, they want to remove safety rules. Apparently, our prosperity is dependent on having more accidents, and making more people sick.
 
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Norman Alexander said:
Proof: At any given time, Trump says what he thinks is most expedient for him right then, even if he contradicts what he said 30 seconds ago. He's a malicious racist goldfish.
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I worked with someone like this many years ago. He would say whatever he needed to achieve his aims, often contradicting himself moments later if that's what he needed. And yet he would never have considered himself a liar. He just had a completely different concept of objective truth than normal people do. To him, truth was whatever he needed it to be in the moment. It was bizarre. No one had any respect for the guy and yet he continued to fail upward throughout his career.

Trump is exactly the same.
 
steenkh said:
Whenever right-wing politicians talk about eliminating rules, and reducing bureaucracy, they want to remove safety rules. Apparently, our prosperity is dependent on having more accidents, and making more people sick.
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Back when the economy crashed in 2008 I saw people online claim that the country just needed to temporarily (Hah!) suspend all environmental regulations, at which point American companies would become profitable and competitive again and the economy would quickly recover.
I was working in pesticide regulation at the state level at the time, so I imagined what would happen if just pesticide regulations were suspended.

Earth Safe Weed Killer
Non-Toxic!!
Safe As Water!!
No ingredients listed on the label. No precautionary language. Minimal directions for use. The label graphics show a smiling child pouring the product on a weed.
The contents? Agent Orange.
 
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