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Trump's Second Term

Then again, maybe there is something to people cheering on their own demise. After all, most farmers voted Trump back in despite the amount of economic damage they felt in Trump's first term.
 
Stacyhs said:
I'm going to have to go all Roman and build a vomitorium in my house. I've pretty much tuned out of watching the news anymore as I have to change the channel whenever that POS comes on. I can feel my BP rising just looking at him for a few seconds.
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off topic quibble: despite popular usage, a vomitorium was just the hallway through which numbers of people would pass. Amphitheaters had vomitoria, and it wasn't the quality of the food the concessionaires were handing out, though I'm willing to bet we might gag a bit at some of it. As in, the weirdest Icelandic fare gets a run for its money with garum!

Mind you, wandering back in the direction of the topic, if we keep on talking nasty about our fearless leader, a secret vomitorium might not be a bad idea. When you hear that knock late at night, you might not want to answer the front door.
 
dirtywick said:
www.nbcnews.com

Trump says it will be 'hard' to bring down grocery prices, pins hopes on lower energy costs and better supply chains

The pace of food price growth has already slowed dramatically over the past year.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

trump now says it'll be hard, not easy, to bring down grocery prices. is hopeful energy and the supply chain he plans on tariffing like crazy will help keep costs down.
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By the time he is inaugurated, all the policies he campaigned on will be reversed. He will also insist he never said that he would do the stuff he campaigned on. That would be...what's the phrase...fake news.

His bold new plan to "Make America Great Again" will be to allow foreign workers in specific industries like produce picking, building and cleaning, and not deport them after all (Trump: "Isn't that nice of me?"). New oil production won't start for years, but the oil companies will get billions in government handouts for "exploration". This money will be turned into stock buybacks for exec boardrooms almost instantly.

Fortunately, almost nobody will listen to DOGE because it will be a Trump ego-stroking machine with no actual teeth to enforce any of its stupid "rulings". Musk: "Boeing needs all workers to stand up 18 hours per day and make more nuclear-powered zeppelins!" Everyone else: "And you can ◊◊◊◊ off."

Extra tariffs will "no longer be necessary now Trump's in charge", and any in force now will have been "a failed Biden experiment". Trumpy may not even add new tariffs but take some away. Because that's what he promised on the campaign trail, remember? Remember??

Prices, which will fluctuate anyway, will be "controlled by Democrat criminals" when they go up and "all his own work" when they go down. Of course, he will take all the credit for fuel prices already being lower before he became president. Or not if they go up.

In summary, he will be an absolute lazy slob, sitting around in his filled diaper in Mar-a-Lago, do absolutely nothing whatsoever and make no changes, while taking credit for Biden's work and simultaneously calling Biden a criminal. He won't forgo his WH salary this time round - he has loans interest to pay to overseas creditors!

Typical Trump operation - a lazy ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ liar getting paid to do sweet FA.
 
bruto said:
off topic quibble: despite popular usage, a vomitorium was just the hallway through which numbers of people would pass. Amphitheaters had vomitoria, and it wasn't the quality of the food the concessionaires were handing out, though I'm willing to bet we might gag a bit at some of it. As in, the weirdest Icelandic fare gets a run for its money with garum!

Mind you, wandering back in the direction of the topic, if we keep on talking nasty about our fearless leader, a secret vomitorium might not be a bad idea. When you hear that knock late at night, you might not want to answer the front door.
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Way to kill my point, Bruto! :geek:
Don't make me go all Beth Dutton on you!
 
Norman Alexander said:
By the time he is inaugurated, all the policies he campaigned on will be reversed. He will also insist he never said that he would do the stuff he campaigned on. That would be...what's the phrase...fake news.

His bold new plan to "Make America Great Again" will be to allow foreign workers in specific industries like produce picking, building and cleaning, and not deport them after all (Trump: "Isn't that nice of me?"). New oil production won't start for years, but the oil companies will get billions in government handouts for "exploration". This money will be turned into stock buybacks for exec boardrooms almost instantly.

Fortunately, almost nobody will listen to DOGE because it will be a Trump ego-stroking machine with no actual teeth to enforce any of its stupid "rulings". Musk: "Boeing needs all workers to stand up 18 hours per day and make more nuclear-powered zeppelins!" Everyone else: "And you can ◊◊◊◊ off."

Extra tariffs will "no longer be necessary now Trump's in charge", and any in force now will have been "a failed Biden experiment". Trumpy may not even add new tariffs but take some away. Because that's what he promised on the campaign trail, remember? Remember??

Prices, which will fluctuate anyway, will be "controlled by Democrat criminals" when they go up and "all his own work" when they go down. Of course, he will take all the credit for fuel prices already being lower before he became president. Or not if they go up.

In summary, he will be an absolute lazy slob, sitting around in his filled diaper in Mar-a-Lago, do absolutely nothing whatsoever and make no changes, while taking credit for Biden's work and simultaneously calling Biden a criminal. He won't forgo his WH salary this time round - he has loans interest to pay to overseas creditors!

Typical Trump operation - a lazy ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ liar getting paid to do sweet FA.
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No, it will be like his first term where he did his best to follow through on his campaign promises, only better this time because he learned from that not to fill his cabinet with those whose first loyalty is to the deep state, not constituents, all American citizens. There's even some wise Democrats now like Fetterman and Adams who realize that working with Trump to put country over party makes sense.
 
Iamafalser said:
No, it will be like his first term where he did his best to follow through on his campaign promises, only better this time because he learned from that not to fill his cabinet with those whose first loyalty is to the deep state, not constituents, all American citizens. There's even some wise Democrats now like Fetterman and Adams who realize that working with Trump to put country over party makes sense.
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One of his campaign promises was to bring grocery bills down. How's that going now?
 
arthwollipot said:
One of his campaign promises was to bring grocery bills down. How's that going now?
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He'll just take credit for the drop in inflation over the last 18 months.

I'm also not sure how it works in the US, but here in the UK fruit and vegetable prices tend to drop in the summer so he'll likely take credit for that as well.

And of course he'll claim that eggs were $10 a dozen or something ridiculous like that and then say that he's brought it down to $4 a dozen - don't rule out bare-faced lying.

If any high profile item is cheaper than the most expensive it ever was under Biden then Trump will claim that he was responsible for the price drop and a significant proportion of the US electorate, possibly even a majority, will believe him.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Vivek is claiming that a federal employee is looking forward to DOGE and that if he's fired because of it, it's okay.
The absurdity of their lies. It is an insult to all americans.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't at least one person in federal service, who felt that his job was either pointless or could be automated with ease, but still shows up as long as there's a paycheck and decent healthcare to be had.

With such a vast federal bureaucracy, there's bound to be waste and inflexibility in various places, but of course in some places it's more or less built into the system.

There was a video doing the rounds about a decade ago, in which a general was before a House armed forces commitee hearing, basically pleading them to stop buying more M1 Abrams tanks, because a) they weren't suited the for urban combat that most modern conflicts involve, and b) the army already had enough of them, so any new deliveries were being mothballed right off the delivery line. Naturally they voted to buy more anyway, presumably since the prospect of closing production lines in various voter districts was seen as a worse outcome.
 
KDLarsen said:
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't at least one person in federal service, who felt that his job was either pointless or could be automated with ease, but still shows up as long as there's a paycheck and decent healthcare to be had.

With such a vast federal bureaucracy, there's bound to be waste and inflexibility in various places, but of course in some places it's more or less built into the system.
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I agree, but it's not something that's unique to the public sector. My experience of large corporate structures is that they also have similar levels of waste and arguably these are worse than public sector waste because that is paid for at cost price while private sector waste also includes a profit margin.
 
KDLarsen said:
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't at least one person in federal service, who felt that his job was either pointless or could be automated with ease, but still shows up as long as there's a paycheck and decent healthcare to be had.

With such a vast federal bureaucracy, there's bound to be waste and inflexibility in various places, but of course in some places it's more or less built into the system.

There was a video doing the rounds about a decade ago, in which a general was before a House armed forces commitee hearing, basically pleading them to stop buying more M1 Abrams tanks, because a) they weren't suited the for urban combat that most modern conflicts involve, and b) the army already had enough of them, so any new deliveries were being mothballed right off the delivery line. Naturally they voted to buy more anyway, presumably since the prospect of closing production lines in various voter districts was seen as a worse outcome.
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Apart from tanks are still very much needed and ones in service wear out and need to be replaced. They also get upgraded with improvements.
 
The Trump Ramaswamy Musk task force to reduce government is basically a claim that Government is bad, as Reagan said. But the claim that it grows and grows and takes over everything....is false. The federal work force has not grown. It was 3 million at its peak and has been about 2.7 million since 2010.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Apart from tanks are still very much needed and ones in service wear out and need to be replaced. They also get upgraded with improvements.
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Yet the army kept telling congress they didn't need them, and did so for years (2012 through to 2014 at least, by 2016 production had slowed to a trickle before trump and his gung-ho agenda restarted production and upgrades).
 
The Don said:
He'll just take credit for the drop in inflation over the last 18 months.

I'm also not sure how it works in the US, but here in the UK fruit and vegetable prices tend to drop in the summer so he'll likely take credit for that as well.

And of course he'll claim that eggs were $10 a dozen or something ridiculous like that and then say that he's brought it down to $4 a dozen - don't rule out bare-faced lying.
If any high profile item is cheaper than the most expensive it ever was under Biden then Trump will claim that he was responsible for the price drop and a significant proportion of the US electorate, possibly even a majority, will believe him.
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This. Just as a sort of an exemplar, whatever Trump may actually do about (or to) the Haitians in Springfield OH, the end result will be that he will claim credit for the cats and dogs there no longer being eaten and counting on MAGA to forget that they never were. Politicians/political parties traditionally run on identifying problems and proposing solutions- Trump/MAGA's method is to invent problems that are only make-believe to begin with (or, at least, badly blown out of proportion), and then claim the credit for "solving" them afterwards.
 
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bruto said:
...though I'm willing to bet we might gag a bit at some of it. As in, the weirdest Icelandic fare gets a run for its money with garum!
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Many people still use sauces made the same way as Garum. Asian fish sauces and Worcester sauce are both based on fermenting fish are probaly the two that many people will be using with some regularity
 
Iamafalser said:
No, it will be like his first term where he did his best to follow through on his campaign promises, only better this time because he learned from that not to fill his cabinet with those whose first loyalty is to the deep state, not constituents, all American citizens. There's even some wise Democrats now like Fetterman and Adams who realize that working with Trump to put country over party makes sense.
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He did his best to thwart the law and constitution to perform illegal activities and to kill protestors. He was stopped by those loyal to the law and USA, not Trump. He is not making that mistake this time. Trump will kill protestors. He will control the media. Fetterman and Adams are cowards.
 
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