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Trump's promised ICE raids have begun

Bogative said:
I found your problem. You presume to think anyone gives a flying **** about your opinion.
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I would wager a lot more care about mine, than care about yours. Well, other than to laugh at them. You know, because stupid bigotry, and knee jerk fascist sycophancy are hilarious.

You can go now.
 
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Resume said:
Well, certainly with immunity. Not qualified immunity, absolute immunity.
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How it works is that federal officers are immune from state prosecution for acts connected with the proper and lawful exercise of their federal authority. That's not an absolute immunity. Immunity of any kind is a threshold issue. That is, it's a question that has to be settled before a prosecution can proceed beyond the pleading stage. Nothing about immunity forbids a law enforcement agency from investigating allegations of wrongdoing.

Not all actions are subject to immunity. If an IRS agent driving a government vehicle to an audit appointment runs a red light and kills a pedestrian, a state action can proceed. Driving a car is incidental to the agent's government function. Incidental actions that violate state law may be prosecuted by the state.

Conversely, a state has almost no power to regulate how federal officers can conduct their official duties within a state. So when the states propose that ICE agents must drive marked vehicles, wear uniforms, and remain identifiable (i.e., no masks) when carrying out their enforcement duties, those will almost certainly fail. Those conditions are not incidental to the officer's duties.

However, immunity for federal officers is contingent upon the regularity and lawfulness of the officer's actions with respect to their duties. If this officer is brought up on state murder charges and raises a federal immunity defense, his adherence to federal law and the rules of his office become grounds upon which an immunity defense may be denied. This is especially true when the charged conduct was occasioned by his departure from the rules governing the conduct of his office.
 
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It's happening in other states as well, every day there's potential for more killings.

Of course the Nazi ball lickers are insisting it's their own fault.
Just comply

ICE violently detain 2 more U.S. citizens—rip out earring injuring face.

"Agents started grabbing and shaking us... punched us in our chest and abdomens."

"They tried to drag us by our arms outside, and honestly... we just started fearing for our lives."

Traffic stop began for no reason other than they were racially profiled—according to stepbrothers Edwin Godinez and Yair Alexander Napoles.

The incident occurred in Rowan County, North Carolina.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009328556548014558
 
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JayUtah said:
How it works is that federal officers are immune from state prosecution for acts connected with the proper and lawful exercise of their federal authority. That's not an absolute immunity. Immunity of any kind is a threshold issue. That is, it's a question that has to be settled before a prosecution can proceed beyond the pleading stage. Nothing about immunity forbids a law enforcement agency from investigating allegations of wrongdoing.

Not all actions are subject to immunity. If an IRS agent driving a government vehicle to an audit appointment runs a red light and kills a pedestrian, a state action can proceed. Driving a car is incidental to the agent's government function. Incidental actions that violate state law may be prosecuted by the state.

Conversely, a state has almost no power to regulate how federal officers can conduct their official duties within a state. So when the states propose that ICE agents must drive marked vehicles, wear uniforms, and remain identifiable (i.e., no masks) when carrying out their enforcement duties, those will almost certainly fail. Those conditions are not incidental to the officer's duties.

However, immunity for federal officers is contingent upon the regularity and lawfulness of the officer's actions with respect to their duties. If this officer is brought up on state murder charges and raises a federal immunity defense, his adherence to federal law and the rules of his office become grounds upon which an immunity defense may be denied. This is especially true when the charged conduct was occasioned by his departure from the rules governing the conduct of his office.
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Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!
 
Andy_Ross said:
Traffic stop began for no reason other than they were racially profiled—according to stepbrothers Edwin Godinez and Yair Alexander Napoles.
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Well, in that case, it has to be true. We even have a partial video to prove it!

There's no disputing the facts, just like earlier when CNN had an eyewitness claiming that ice agents were ordering Renee Good to leave.

Jesus ******* Christ, what a sad excuse for a skeptics forum this place has turned into.
 
Bogative said:
Well, in that case, it has to be true. We even have a partial video to prove it!

There's no disputing the facts, just like earlier when CNN had an eyewitness claiming that ice agents were ordering Renee Good to leave.

Jesus ******* Christ, what a sad excuse for a skeptics forum this place has turned into.
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