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Trump's nickname.

I think you might be missing a certain point WRT name calling as a tactic.
Think of the memes you might be seeing appear frequently on social media, and the Trumpsters that are forwarding them.
Are they (like the ones that I get) almost universally devoid of reasonable thought? The ones I get are.
People who would be swayed by argument are not sending them out, nor are people who would be impressed by logical comparisons between supporting Trump and supporting tyranny during the American Revolution. In fact, making a historical reference only puts one in the "elite" category, and deepens the resolve of the average Trumpster.
Names that are too cerebral, or express too much agitation (proving that their hero is "making liberals heads explode") actually work to keep the Trumpsters firmly behind their demagogue.

The best way to weaken the support of the Trumpsters is to find a way to genuinely laugh at them. They are not deep thinkers, they feel like liberals have been making their stupidity cause them to be marginalized and they enjoy that Trump makes all us "elites" feel the frustration that they feel.
Find a way to make them feel that Trump is actually making us laugh, and his support (such as it is ) disappears. They cannot tolerate embarrassment.

While I understand the 'know your audience' angle, and we know that in the political realm the group that has shown they respond very well to juvenile, mindless, name calling are ardent Trump supporters, I think you're falling just short of the level of 'knowing' needed there.

They don't respond well because it is mindless, nor juvenile, nor mean, nor clever, nor name-calling. They don't respond only because of the way it makes them feel. It isn't the quality of the mockery that factors in at all. Colbert, Meyers, even Kimmel and Bee are orders of magnitude better at it than anyone supporting Trump can be.

They respond that way because of who the name calling is directed at. They do so because it does feel good, to signal your group. Yes, they are 'loyalists' in that proving 'loyalty' to their tribe and virtue signaling is more important that facts, or even for many their own best interests. The more absurd the absurdity they are supporting is, the more it proves their loyalty. You will never make them feel bad about mockery, yours or their own, because the function it serves is almost entirely loyalty based for them. Even if they honestly think most people think them vile, it still isn't even on them personally, because they've rejected any meaningful implementation of the idea of personal responsibility and have abdicated their agency to their master. Good things are credited to the master. Bad things, even their own dark feelings and insecurities, are blamed on the other. They want a god-anointed king.

That is why you'll never have a nickname that does meaningful damage to Trump for the audience we know embraces meanspirited mockery in the political realm. That is why they'll never actually be the audience for such things. The audience I was addressing was those here. And make no mistake, we are engaging in it for some of the same reasons; to signal our unity on opposition to 45. The main difference is the level of importance we put on it, and other aspects like the cleverness.
 
Trump is a kakistonomen: his own name, being a representation of him, is already worse than literally anything else you could call him. Reference a bloodthirsty dictator? All of them were smarter than he is. Call him by a bodily fluid? All of those serve useful purposes. Use adjectives to imply insanity, ridiculousness, or childishness? The mentally ill aren't responsible for their actions, ridiculous people can at least be amusing, and children grow up. Every insult you can dream of would be a step up for Trump. Just call him by his own name, it's already an insult.

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Not cryptic at all. But I'll spell it out for you anyway: You don't hate Trumpsters for being stupid. You hate them for other reasons. You don't even believe they're really all that stupid. That's just an epithet you use to express your hate.
Thanks for clarifying. You are wrong, that could be due to frivolous use of the term "hate". But at least you took the time to explain.
 
While I understand the 'know your audience' angle, and we know that in the political realm the group that has shown they respond very well to juvenile, mindless, name calling are ardent Trump supporters, I think you're falling just short of the level of 'knowing' needed there.

They don't respond well because it is mindless, nor juvenile, nor mean, nor clever, nor name-calling. They don't respond only because of the way it makes them feel. It isn't the quality of the mockery that factors in at all. Colbert, Meyers, even Kimmel and Bee are orders of magnitude better at it than anyone supporting Trump can be.

They respond that way because of who the name calling is directed at. They do so because it does feel good, to signal your group. Yes, they are 'loyalists' in that proving 'loyalty' to their tribe and virtue signaling is more important that facts, or even for many their own best interests. The more absurd the absurdity they are supporting is, the more it proves their loyalty. You will never make them feel bad about mockery, yours or their own, because the function it serves is almost entirely loyalty based for them. Even if they honestly think most people think them vile, it still isn't even on them personally, because they've rejected any meaningful implementation of the idea of personal responsibility and have abdicated their agency to their master. Good things are credited to the master. Bad things, even their own dark feelings and insecurities, are blamed on the other. They want a god-anointed king.

That is why you'll never have a nickname that does meaningful damage to Trump for the audience we know embraces meanspirited mockery in the political realm. That is why they'll never actually be the audience for such things. The audience I was addressing was those here. And make no mistake, we are engaging in it for some of the same reasons; to signal our unity on opposition to 45. The main difference is the level of importance we put on it, and other aspects like the cleverness.
Kings that are laughed at lose the support of their subjects.
 
How's that been working out for you?
I guess some indication will become apparent with the next round of polling. After the most recent debacle some evidence of a drop in Trumps support may become apparent.

For the Trumpsters, the headlines screaming "traitor" will have less impact than the ones featuring "embarrassment" in weakening that support.
 
I guess some indication will become apparent with the next round of polling. After the most recent debacle some evidence of a drop in Trumps support may become apparent.

For the Trumpsters, the headlines screaming "traitor" will have less impact than the ones featuring "embarrassment" in weakening that support.

If your support is irrational to begin, why not double down?

I have a conservative aunt. Everything is "fake liberal media" EVEN WHEN SHE SEES IT ON LIVE TELEVISION.

Mango Mussolini has a hardcoe base of people who won't waver. I think, personally, get the kids out to vote for House seats. (By kids, I mean 18-25)
 
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Just call him Trump but change the definition of Trump mean a horrible mess up,ie-"Gosh Bob you really Trumped it up now."


The word is already (I suspect) causing a great deal of angst among millions of bridge players around the world.

Let's not make it worse by making it official. With any luck this whole thing will blow over in twenty years or so.

I hope.
 
I guess some indication will become apparent with the next round of polling. After the most recent debacle some evidence of a drop in Trumps support may become apparent.

For the Trumpsters, the headlines screaming "traitor" will have less impact than the ones featuring "embarrassment" in weakening that support.

Yeah. It's amazing how weak, servile and obsequious Trump was toward Putin. He really proved he was Putin's bitch. Trump is definitely the bottom in that relationship.
 
It is customary in Russia to add your name, appended with -ovich, as a middle name. Donald Vladimirovich Trumpski. Maybe just Trumpski for short.
 
King Orangutan and the Trumpanzees - the whole lot of them fling crap around.

Not all that inventive, but the image of a great orange ape is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I see this poor excuse for an anthropoid.
 

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