Tricky Ways To Pull Down A Skyscraper

[DGM]

So the correct bedunker answer to my question is: "We don't know."

Thank you.

So you are only guessing that explosives could not be heard?

You are the one claiming explosives were used but couldn't be heard because of their location. prove it.

Bet you won't.

ETA: The answer to your question is known, science is funny that way.

 

[LSSBB]

So the correct bedunker answer to my question is: "We don't know."

Thank you.

Your dodge noted. Show your work. All you've proven is you can come up with hand-wavey excuses, and can't be bothered to back it up.

 

[Redwood]

A guy in the Make comments has an even better yt:



Note the height of the tower and the very NOTICEABLE sound the demolition explosives make, conspicuously absent from the streets of Manhattan on 9/11/2001.

That could not have been a controlled demolition. It didn't come down symmetrically, like WTC 7.

 

[Redwood]

What kind of noise do detonations make from the inside core of a fully furnished half-kilometre-tall highrise? No answer to this yet from 9/11 twoofers.

When you point out to them that indeed many did report on hearing the crack-crack-crack sound of explosives, twoofers then say "it was water coolers" or "it was transformers"... "it WASN'T explosives". Why? "Because it wasn't."

That's the kind of logic you face with twoofers. There's no point engaging with them.

Not even trying any more, are you?

Well according to Niels Harrit, one of the finest minds in trutherdom, "hundreds of tons" of high explosives were used, so I imagine it would look and sound something like this.

 

[Robrob]

Not even trying any more, are you?

Well according to Niels Harrit, one of the finest minds in trutherdom, "hundreds of tons" of high explosives were used, so I imagine it would look and sound something like this.

CT have no idea what they are talking about. In 2007, I was in Kabul, Afghanistan. About a block over and separated by several buildings from us, a car bomb detonated and it felt/sounded like I was wearing a kettle over my head and someone had smashed it with a sledgehammer. The shockwave was a physical force slamming into my entire body. I don't know how much ammonium nitrate fertilizer you can cram into a Kia Surf but I doubt it was any fraction of the above described "hundreds of tons."

 

[NoahFence]

What kind of noise do detonations make from the inside core of a fully furnished half-kilometre-tall highrise?

No answer to this yet from 9/11 twoofers.

When you point out to them that indeed many did report on hearing the crack-crack-crack sound of explosives, twoofers then say "it was water coolers" or "it was transformers"... "it WASN'T explosives". Why? "Because it wasn't."

That's the kind of logic you face with twoofers. There's no point engaging with them.

Dolt, massive explosions caused by aircraft impacts would have rendered any explosive charges useless.

 

[NoahFence]

My question was: What kind of noise do detonations make from the inside core of a fully furnished half-kilometre-tall highrise?

DGM claims that "this data was presented" in the (assuming he means NIST) report on WTC 7. So, no, the burden of proof is on him to show 1) what the data is and 2) how it answers my question above.

We don't know. Because its never happened.

 

[NoahFence]

CT have no idea what they are talking about. In 2007, I was in Kabul, Afghanistan. About a block over and separated by several buildings from us, a car bomb detonated and it felt/sounded like I was wearing a kettle over my head and someone had smashed it with a sledgehammer. The shockwave was a physical force slamming into my entire body. I don't know how much ammonium nitrate fertilizer you can cram into a Kia Surf but I doubt it was any fraction of the above described "hundreds of tons."

Your real world experience can't overcome this level of retard.

 

[Robrob]

Dolt, massive explosions caused by aircraft impacts would have rendered any explosive charges useless.

In the military, a common safety concern after demolitions training is to police the range fore signs of unexplored ordinance (UXO). If det cord loops it can cut the line and leave UXO. Or the explosion itself can throw entire blocks of unexplored C4 clear of the blast area. Either way, there's plenty of "evidence" left over.

In demolishing two 110 story buildings (not including the 40 story WTC7) using planes and fire, the Illuminati were so good they managed not to leave a trace?

 

[ergo]

CT have no idea what they are talking about. In 2007, I was in Kabul, Afghanistan. About a block over and separated by several buildings from us, a car bomb detonated and it felt/sounded like I was wearing a kettle over my head and someone had smashed it with a sledgehammer. The shockwave was a physical force slamming into my entire body.

Yes, as I've pointed out before, most of those who suffered auditory injuries at the Murrah building bombing (detonated outside) were those who were outside and/or in vehicles, while most of those suffering bodily injuries were inside.

Here's some audio of a demolition of an emptied out building that was apparently only across the street from where the camera was recording, and with window glass as the only apparent sound barrier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8iO4TQsp9Y

 

[911KookDetector]

In the military, a common safety concern after demolitions training is to police the range fore signs of unexplored ordinance (UXO). If det cord loops it can cut the line and leave UXO. Or the explosion itself can throw entire blocks of unexplored C4 clear of the blast area. Either way, there's plenty of "evidence" left over.

In demolishing two 110 story buildings (not including the 40 story WTC7) using planes and fire, the Illuminati were so good they managed not to leave a trace?

I think the "smarter" (if you want to go so far as to call them that) of the Twoofers have realized this utterly absurd reality, which is why they had to make up the lies about nanothermite (i.e. paint chips from PPG) being found in WTC dust.

The "professional" Twoofers have even gone so far as to fake a crank-reviewed paper on the stuff in order to keep the kookspiracy losers from doubting the existence of silent and disappearing explosives, thereby inadvertently stopping them from buying all of the conspiracy DVD's, T-Shirts and bumpers stickers off of their website.

What's MOST funny about THAT is how the Truthers have failed to question how ~100 TONS (according to Niels Harrit) of these Military grade NWO non-explosive Temerec paint chips could have been used on 911 when they weren't being produced until 2002.

At that rate of around 80 grams per week.

And somehow, these 100 nanometer thin paint layers brought down the 4 walled, 4 inch thick steel WTC core column.

Sounds plausible, right?

 

[Redwood]

What's MOST funny about THAT is how the Truthers have failed to question how ~100 TONS (according to Niels Harrit) of these Military grade NWO non-explosive Temerec paint chips could have been used on 911 when they weren't being produced until 2002.

Actually, Harrit believes that "hundreds of tons" of conventional high explosives were used in addition to nanothermite. He ain't quite decided yet whether his nanothermite that looks like paint chips was used to melt the steel columns, or maybe was a priming charge for the hundreds of tons of conventionals.

Apparently, nanothermite is the world's most inefficient primary explosive. Once again, although the Vast Conspiracy are made up of "the stupidest s on the face of the planet", they always manage to get away scot-free.

 

[DGM]

And ergo is arguing they could possibly not be heard.

There wouldn't be a window in Manhattan or Jersey City left unbroken. Harrit really is the brightest "truther"?

 

[Robrob]

Actually, Harrit believes that "hundreds of tons" of conventional high explosives were used in addition to nanothermite. He ain't quite decided yet whether his nanothermite that looks like paint chips was used to melt the steel columns, or maybe was a priming charge for the hundreds of tons of conventionals.

Apparently, nanothermite is the world's most inefficient primary explosive. Once again, although the Vast Conspiracy are made up of "the stupidest s on the face of the planet", they always manage to get away scot-free.

Might as well try "blowing up" a building with matches.

 

[Horatius]

Wait, you're the twoofer here, aren't you? Or do you now accept the common narrative that 19 hijackers carried out the events of 9/11?

No, this is just the latest in the long string of truther attempts to re-frame the debate by changing their name. Or at least, what ergo thinks is a "clever" variation on that theme.

It's gotten to the point where I don't need to make new comics any more, as they're just re-cycling the same stupid over and over again.

 

[phunk]

Yes, as I've pointed out before, most of those who suffered auditory injuries at the Murrah building bombing (detonated outside) were those who were outside and/or in vehicles, while most of those suffering bodily injuries were inside.

Here's some audio of a demolition of an emptied out building that was apparently only across the street from where the camera was recording, and with window glass as the only apparent sound barrier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8iO4TQsp9Y

Funny how every other video of that same demolition has clearly audible explosives even from much farther away.

 

[jaydeehess]

Getting back to the OP, it seems that as long as a building gets demolished by any means and is referred to in a sentence containing the word 'pull' that it is seen as somehow bolstering a truther meme.
Unfortunately the type of demolition , described and referred to by this journalist , with theword 'pull' is in no possible fashion relevant to any truther meme. Neither is any demolition in which a structure is quite literally 'pulled' down with cables.

Ergo says he wants reference to NIST's data used to determine that the sounds of detonations were not heard from 7WTC. First of all the reference we all know of is a simple line in the report stating that this was done and this is ergo's unsaid point. He wishes to imply that this work was not done and that therefore there is no data.

However, if he wishes to go on and state that furnishings and windows would muffle such detonations he has a problem no one has pointed out. In the case of 7WTC a large percentage of windows on the south side were taken out by the debris of both towers. On its other sides again, many windows on several floors were broken by fires. So his complaint holds little water.
In the case of the towers the only floors with intact furnishings and windows were those below the impact levels. So at the very least collapse initiation is sans any 130db explosive sounds, let alone such sounds being present immediately preceding collapse(allowing for speed of sound delays).

So it comes down to his simple wish that NIST be guilty of malfeasance and doctored reporting. What evidence is there to bolster such an accusation? Well, none except his wishful thinking. That and a dollar might buy you a coffee.

 

[LSSBB]

Getting back to the OP, it seems that as long as a building gets demolished by any means and is referred to in a sentence containing the word 'pull' that it is seen as somehow bolstering a truther meme.
Unfortunately the type of demolition , described and referred to by this journalist , with theword 'pull' is in no possible fashion relevant to any truther meme. Neither is any demolition in which a structure is quite literally 'pulled' down with cables.

Ergo says he wants reference to NIST's data used to determine that the sounds of detonations were not heard from 7WTC. First of all the reference we all know of is a simple line in the report stating that this was done and this is ergo's unsaid point. He wishes to imply that this work was not done and that therefore there is no data.

However, if he wishes to go on and state that furnishings and windows would muffle such detonations he has a problem no one has pointed out. In the case of 7WTC a large percentage of windows on the south side were taken out by the debris of both towers. On its other sides again, many windows on several floors were broken by fires. So his complaint holds little water.
In the case of the towers the only floors with intact furnishings and windows were those below the impact levels. So at the very least collapse initiation is sans any 130db explosive sounds, let alone such sounds being present immediately preceding collapse(allowing for speed of sound delays).

So it comes down to his simple wish that NIST be guilty of malfeasance and doctored reporting. What evidence is there to bolster such an accusation? Well, none except his wishful thinking. That and a dollar might buy you a coffee.

His claim of attenuation by office furnishings is unsupported in any case.

 

[Mark F]

Getting back to the OP, it seems that as long as a building gets demolished by any means and is referred to in a sentence containing the word 'pull' that it is seen as somehow bolstering a truther meme.

Unfortunately the type of demolition , described and referred to by this journalist , with theword 'pull' is in no possible fashion relevant to any truther meme. Neither is any demolition in which a structure is quite literally 'pulled' down with cables.

The whole discussion is irrelevant since Larry Silverstein - whose words were distorted to make the case for CD - was clearly talking about saving lives by pulling rescue workers out of harms way from a fatally damaged building.

Thus there is no case to discuss. It matters not if "pull it" is a CD term since Mr. Silverstein was not discussing CD with the FNDY chief.

 

[jaydeehess]

His claim of attenuation by office furnishings is unsupported in any case.

The whole discussion is irrelevant since Larry Silverstein - whose words were distorted to make the case for CD - was clearly talking about saving lives by pulling rescue workers out of harms way from a fatally damaged building.

Thus there is no case to discuss. It matters not if "pull it" is a CD term since Mr. Silverstein was not discussing CD with the FNDY chief.

True, and true, but his claims also fail on their own stated reference. It is amazing to observe the cognizant dissoonnance required to say that office furnishings and windows would muffle a blast when the structure in question has had said furnishings shoved about by an aircraft or consumed by fire, and has windows that are largely no longer intact.

One wonders how many failed arguments one needs to put forth in order to realize that the ergo has no clothes