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Over on the Rottentomatoes dot com website, I've been participating in decreasingly heated debates of the usual type about 9/11. All the old tricks and canards have been used by a core group of CTers.

At some point, some random CT posted this:
"Firefighters have said that bombs were placed in the buildings. Many of them have told others that they know for a fact that this is true."

I of course questioned this silly comment like so:
"Is there any firefighter who is still making these claims? Legit question on my part. Obviously there were explosions all over the place, explosion does not equal bomb. Can we get some firefighters to come out and say "yes there was a bomb, I saw it, and I am upset that the government is telling a different story"? I know we have 1 or 2 upset firefighters who didn't like the way they were questioned by the commission, but that is not the same thing. And I know we have that crazy auxilary firefighter Paul Isaac Jr, who many people on both sides of the debate agree is way out there. But it seems that if they indeed saw bombs, there would be a lot of them coming out with the info. Same goes for cops and ems on scene."

Somehow, Sentinal saw my comment (I think he googles his name) and decided to join in. I apologized for calling him crazy, and attempted to have a respectful discussion with him. It seemed to be going OK, until he finally snapped and posted this:

"HOMOBOY,

Suck my mother ****ing dick ***** *** ******.



Respond like a real ***** now ***.

I shouldn have to apologize to punk ***** *** ******s who make the first strike. It wouldn't happebn on the street and it ain't going to happen here, so so stop slobbering on my knob and go **** yourself.

Sentinel"

I feel honored to have Paul "go off" on me (for lack of a better word). Did he do that often when he was around here?
 
Project86 said:
Over on the Rottentomatoes dot com website, I've been participating in decreasingly heated debates of the usual type about 9/11. All the old tricks and canards have been used by a core group of CTers. *snip*
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What´s the link? :D
 
He never lost it like that here. He did say that he didn't see bombs at the WTC.
Hello Mark,

If its the wingtv article its ********. They slandered me last year when I read them the riot act about their behavior.

The article" Fireman admits again 9-11 was an inside job" is slander.

The article written by randy lavello is also slander as he has me saying that woolsey former CIA Director Woolsey was passing a gag order down the rank and file of the FDNY. That statement was never made in that context, It was said in humor ,and as a matter of fact that so-called reporter was fired by Alex Jones for making **** up on alot of people. The only reason I didn't go through the legal channels is because lawyers cost to damn much.

So the true statement was the that I heard Explosions not bombs as I couldn't tell what the sounds were as I was blocks away and can not confirm what the noise was. As I was aproaching City Hall the North Tower began the collapse I heard what sounded like thunder just prior to the collapse then the Popping as the tower fell. I had my radio scanner and there were reports of explsions within the conplex over the PD and PAPD frequencies. As I made my way closer I could pick up on the FD Handie Talkie frequencies and it sounded like hell. No one new what the was going to happen next but when the second tower began its fall there were what sounded like loud popping coming from the tower as well as a sucking sound like reveres air pressure.

Its seems the people at 911Truth have some problems with credibility as I had approached them on this issue for clarification. No need to say they never returned my messages.

They are tools of the trade.

Take care
Paul
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rottentomatoes dot com/vine/showthread.php?t=502001&page=1&pp=30

Start from the begining, the Sentinal rant is at the end.

Read some of the other threads too, pretty funny. I apoligize in advance because I paraphrased a few things from posts here, because you guys are just so smart.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
Paul's heart is in the right place, but he is too emotionally vested in the issue to be objective.
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That's what I thought from seeing his posts around here, but that's not what I'm getting from him in that thread. So far nothing more than rants and insults.
 
Project86 said:
That's what I thought from seeing his posts around here, but that's not what I'm getting from him in that thread. So far nothing more than rants and insults.
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Heh, you should see the thread here where he and I first tangled. Once I figured out wtf was going on it got better, but we did not get off on a very good foot.
 
I saw the results of concrete exploding once. (I didn't witness the event, but saw the mess next day. Several witnesses described the event to me).
No bombs, just too much CaCl2 accelerator in the cement mix water. Big concrete pad- about 2m thick by 15 m square. The explosions were pretty loud. (Several sharp cracks, easily audible at about 200m.) One witness was a Vietnam Vet, ex USMC. He said it was a far "cleaner" sound than explosives, possibly as it was in open air with no other structures to damp, muffle or add reverb.
This threw chunks of concrete a couple of metres on a side several metres away. Smaller pieces went UP at least 4-5 metres.
Nothing like this was involved in 9/11 of course, but it certainly made it clear to me that large concrete structures can tear themselves apart under internal stresses, without the assistance of bombs.
 
Soapy Sam said:
Nothing like this was involved in 9/11 of course, but it certainly made it clear to me that large concrete structures can tear themselves apart under internal stresses, without the assistance of bombs.
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Ever made the mistake of using river stones as the foundation of a campfire? Nuff said.

-Gumboot
 
So I answered his rant with this:

"Thank you for clarifying your position. I see now that you are indeed a very reasonable person, and you are on the verge of understanding the error in your thinking. I will continue to try and help, please feel free to ask any questions."

And then he replies like so:

"I'd like to thank you and every other higher than thou on the board blind as hell to the corruption being perpitrated against America and it citizens by rogue politions who by the way nevr consider putting their children on the front lines of the insane Operation Iraqi Liberation sacm.

I'd like to ask you, how many of you have family in the war and did you have to buy them equipment they should have already had.

Where did the 87 billion (with a big B) Go?


Why are a NG forces being cut off from military medical care as soon as they hit state side?


Its ok to be a patriot just don't walk around with your head up you're derrier blind as a bat.

Oooh, and for the disbelievers Why did John "Jeb" Bush coincidently put the state of Florida on alert on September 7th 2001 and isn't coincidentle that his brother was totally aware the 9-11 was on screen when no other state was?

And the fact that he was in florida the day we lost 3000 people to a preventable terrorist event and lead us into a distraction from the WOT?

The reason we really went to Iraq qas to prevent Saddam from making a profit on the Oil in Euros instead of Dollars.

Heres a trick question I know you'll refuse to answer: where did the Gold go below WTC4?

And what about the Swiss Nazi Gold that was supposed to be paid out to the Hollocaust victims in those Nazi Camps.

Funny how the people in the towers were ordered to return to the offices even after the people in the know knew there was a pre-known attack aimed at the towers.

Carl Roves Grandfather was alledged to have been a nazi regional commander. Bushes grandfather was a Nazi Collaborator. Swartzenegger fathers was connected to the Nazis.

Hitler had a working plan to hit NYC skyscrappers with suicide pilots even before Pearl Harbor. The Rockefeller Family through Standard oil of NJ were half owners of IG Farben which created the Zyklon B and were responsible for the WTC Project that coincidently were hit by Planes as like the Hitler project were three thousand innocent victims were sacrifised for the profit of the few.

"You can't handle the truth"

"WORK MAKES YOU FREE"

GOD BLESS

Paul Isaac Jr (Sentinel)
NYC Civil Defense at Large"



Wow... I don't even know where to begin. In fact, I see now that there IS no place to begin. There's no point in discussing anything with this guy, entertaining as it is. It almost makes me feel guilty in a way, a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
 
Project86 said:
And what about the Swiss Nazi Gold that was supposed to be paid out to the Hollocaust victims in those Nazi Camps.
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I found his mention of this really curious. I'm not entirely sure where he is going with it, but it's a little ironic, because the guy that managed all that stolen gold was a Swiss man named Francois Genoud.

After WW2 he funded ODESSA before dipping his nastly little fingers into Islamic Terrorism. He was involved in Black September, the PFLP, and funded Carlos The Jackal amongst others.

It gets better. He was also a co-founder (along with others equally linked to Nazism and Islamic Terrorism) of the Al Taqwa bank, which was closed down in conjunction with 9/11 investigations.

So that "Nazi Gold" does have a link to the perpetrators of 9/11. It's just not the perpetrators he thinks it is.

-Gumboot
 
Sorry

See, we all can be civil when we want to be.

I just see things a little different from you guys because I'm looking at the local events that took place before 9-11. Theres the theft of public records by guliani that need answering.

Grand larceny 2 and 4


Sentinel
 
Noone here defends corruption. Noone here defends the government. Most here, however, want proof before they condemn people of murder, and treason. That, to me, seems reasonable.

If criminals were convicted on "co-incidences" and "opinions" alone, the USA would have to take over Canada just to build enough prisons to keep people in.

TAM
 
Villagae voice

The Guliani admin right after 9-11 while sating he needed more time as mayor illegally removed public records to store them in a private storage for shreading operation. the records pertain to ilegal deals with major league baseball stadiums and other deals.


Theres plenty of evidence.


Sentinel
 
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