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Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

The squeaky wheel, and its money, gets the grease. That's the NRA. Note also that in order to win a seat you have to first win your party's nomination. Pretty much no Republican can win a nomination by being anything other than pro-gun, even if most constituents are otherwise.
Just another drawback of a two party, right and far right, system. Of course "most USAians" who want to prevent the endemic gun killings could get involved in the party's nomination systems. If they really cared enough.
 
Just another drawback of a two party, right and far right, system. Of course "most USAians" who want to prevent the endemic gun killings could get involved in the party's nomination systems. If they really cared enough.
Yeah, maybe. I haven't looked it up, but I suspect that while a majority of Americans support tighter gun control, it's not an overwhelming majority. And probably heavily weighted toward Democrats, with a majority of Republicans being more in favor of guns. Independents probably favor control, but aren't going to be significantly involved in party nominations. So Republicans will continue to nominate gun advocates and thanks to the constitution and gerrymandering, control most states and have disproportionate influence in the US Senate.
 
Yeah, maybe. I haven't looked it up, but I suspect that while a majority of Americans support tighter gun control, it's not an overwhelming majority. And probably heavily weighted toward Democrats, with a majority of Republicans being more in favor of guns. Independents probably favor control, but aren't going to be significantly involved in party nominations. So Republicans will continue to nominate gun advocates and thanks to the constitution and gerrymandering, control most states and have disproportionate influence in the US Senate.
And kids will continue to be shot. Two big dots right next to each other that some people just refuse to join.
 
And who elects those representatives? Most USAians. The ones who (we are told) want to prevent the endemic gun killings.
It's been repeatedly said that, presented with policies without being told what party they come from, the US electorate prefer Democratic Party policies like gun control, universal healthcare, progressive taxation and the like.

They've also been told that the Democrats will destroy America so they vote Republican and end up with policies they don't love. Go figure
 
So I guess we're just not talking about Phoenix Ikner then?


So I guess we're just not talking about Trea’land Ty’rell Castille then?

 
Whatabout whatabout whatabout. Feel like talking about Phoenix Ikner?


No, not really. No more so than the hundreds, maybe thousands, of others I have posted about over the years.

I know why you want to talk about this shooting, but the only aspect about it that I find interesting is how absolutely rare it is compared to the rest of the mass shootings that happens every year.

Whatabout whatabout whatabout is exactly what you're doing with this shooting.

"There have been 83 mass shootings so far this year… but what about this one, it's special and needs to be talked about!?"
 
That white supremacists aren't a threat.


I've never said they aren't a threat. However, I have said that when it comes to mass shootings, the threat from white supremacists is minuscule relative to all of the others.

If I'm not mistaken, the last mass shooting at the hands of a White supremacist was Lewiston, Maine in October 2023. There were 676 mass shootings that occurred in between that shooting and the shooting at FSU. Minuscule.
 
You have constantly downplayed the threat. I don't care if you think the threat from white supremacists is "miniscule", it's still a threat.

This entire thread is a great big whatabout.
 
I thought that what Bogative was providing evidence against was the claim that, top law enforcement officials said, "the biggest domestic terror threat comes from white supremacists."?
 
I thought that what Bogative was providing evidence against was the claim that, top law enforcement officials said, "the biggest domestic terror threat comes from white supremacists."?

More specifically, I was countering Joseph "Pedo Peter" Biden's claim.
 
Just another drawback of a two party, right and far right, system. Of course "most USAians" who want to prevent the endemic gun killings could get involved in the party's nomination systems. If they really cared enough.
Most USAians, over 85%, think that abortion should be legal in all or some circumstances. Yet their elected representatives are busy banning it.
 
It's been repeatedly said that, presented with policies without being told what party they come from, the US electorate prefer Democratic Party policies like gun control, universal healthcare, progressive taxation and the like.

They've also been told that the Democrats will destroy America so they vote Republican and end up with policies they don't love. Go figure
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You post continued the discussion regarding the differences between what USAians want from the politicians and what they vote for.
My comment was regarding shootings - the topic of the thread. And follows from the claim that most USAians want to prevent the endemic gun killings.
 

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