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Hokulele said:
Scattered, random accounts. Nothing like a "return" one would expect if your aliens were keen to establish contact with a large group of people.
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But perfect for aliens who wish to walk among us undetected.

;)
 
Halfcentaur said:
If indeed there are extraterrestrial or extradimensional aliens interested in us, the internet would be the perfect format for them to interact and communicate with us. Message boards, chat rooms, it's really ideal for such a thing.

*Clandestinely, I am saying.

As for making contact, I don't think us coming together and pleading for them would illicit any response at all on their part.
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'I' am suggesting we 'openly invite them', talk about the invitation and our expected arrivals on the news, and when the time comes, we all simply look to their arrival...
 
King of the Americas said:
We haven't invited them or made room in the opening ceremonies for what would be a very dramatic arrival.
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If they're such drama queens that they need a special invitation to the Olympics before they make a showing, then what good would you expect to come of that? If you want a big show, hire the Chinese. Lots of bang for the buck, minimal risk of death rays and saucer crashes, and probably some cute girls on bicycles.

Any alien gods out there have had millennia to figure this out. If they can't do any better than occasionally buzzing past us like distracted cluster flies, then to hell with them, they're useless anyway.
 
Two things.

Forget London 2012. They may take Boris Johnson to be the President of Earth.

We will all die.

Horribly

Secondly. This secret footage taken on a real alien spacecraft suggests the bacon thing might not be such a good idea after all.
 
King of the Americas said:
Actually, I don't think we need to 'send' anything either.

All that we need to do is have the media cover the fact that in the next Olympics during the opening ceremonies, the world will take a moment and gaze skyward, waiting for their return.

My long standing theory is they will show up when most of the world is watching for them.
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So this has gone from "let's pretend aliens are real" to a long standing theory about how we might make contact? Seems like a bit of a dishonest approach to open a discussion. But, okay...

... since it's all pretend anyway, we send out the message that we want to meet them, all TV, all radio, all satellites and by every conceivable method. Then when they get here we pretend to be their benefactors, like teach them how to grow food and cure diseases. Then when they've fallen for our deception we flatten the tires on all their little spaceships so they can't make a get-away and we capture them and cook them all for supper! The cookbook of recipes could be titled "To Serve UFOliens".
 
King of the Americas said:
Actually, I don't think we need to 'send' anything either.

All that we need to do is have the media cover the fact that in the next Olympics during the opening ceremonies, the world will take a moment and gaze skyward, waiting for their return.

My long standing theory is they will show up when most of the world is watching for them.
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I guess you have seen that few (if any) skeptics here, including myself, believe that aliens have visited earth.

One thing we have in common, though, is that we would all love to see it happen. Unfortunately, the time and energy requirements are so huge it is unlikely that any civilization, no matter how advanced, would go to the trouble. Some things are just not feasible, no matter what the technology, FTL and time travel are probably among them.
 
If after all this time they've failed to make a convincing contact, what would lead anyone to believe they're competent or equipped in any way to detect our collective desire for their landing?

I think it's much better to leave things as they are, avoiding the risk to us that they'll turn out to be malevolent, and the risk to believers that their failure to appear will be so conspicuous.
 
Marcus said:
I guess you have seen that few (if any) skeptics here, including myself, believe that aliens have visited earth.

One thing we have in common, though, is that we would all love to see it happen. Unfortunately, the time and energy requirements are so huge it is unlikely that any civilization, no matter how advanced, would go to the trouble. Some things are just not feasible, no matter what the technology, FTL and time travel are probably among them.
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You're new, so allow me to explain how wrong you are.

UFO's, are not 'necessarily' from another star...

From the beginning of our written history, 'they' appear in the skies. They could well be a form of advanced earthlings, ascended as it were. They don't have to be from anywhere distant, there are plenty of local hiding spots for them to hail from, our oceans perhaps.
 
King of the Americas said:
Large watch groups of solar eclipses reports of UFO's are scattered and random?
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Yes. Considering all of the large, organized tours and media events that occur during a total solar eclipse, there are very few reports, generally from individuals or small groups, and none of these reports involve anything more than "I saw something strange". To go from "I saw something strange." to "The gods descended from the heavens!" is a huge leap.

Furthermore, using the Google search term you suggested, there is only one case involving a large number of people, and is most likely due to the fact that Venus was very bright that day (and during a total solar eclipse, it can be very bright, particularly for those unused to skywatching). It certainly did not involve any kind of meaningful contact.

It is almost as if these alien gods of yours do not want to appear to humankind in an obvious and public manner ...






... or they don't exist.
 
King of the Americas said:
I think it more likely that we are being studied, not unlike our scientists study other wildlife, while trying not to interfere with their daily activities.

Stories of abduction always sound remarkable similar to how we might tag and release animals.
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Good gods, if that is true that means that people who claim to be abducted are the cross-section of the population that aliens will judge us by.
It's a wonder they haven't sterilized the world yet.

Of course they've now completely stopped abducting as they can just tap into the internet and study us without any need to contact us at all.

What I still don't get is why would they care about the olympics at all? And you do know they're held in London right? Even if they WANTED to show up, they'll just get stuck in traffic or get lost on the tube.
 
King of the Americas said:
You're new, so allow me to explain how wrong you are.

UFO's, are not 'necessarily' from another star...

From the beginning of our written history, 'they' appear in the skies. They could well be a form of advanced earthlings, ascended as it were. They don't have to be from anywhere distant, there are plenty of local hiding spots for them to hail from, our oceans perhaps.
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Oh my, I remember some of your threads but I guess I'd forgotten that you had some rramjet types of beliefs. It's not that I'm unfamiliar with them, it's that I try to address one type of silliness at a time.

Addressing your op in this context is a little like speculating how one would go about contacting the tooth fairy, rather pointless. It's more fun to speculate on something that has a chance of being true, the presence of intelligent life in other solar systems.
 
King of the Americas said:
I say we send them the same set of rules and regulations governing doping AND genetic modification, and see the set of athletes they send down. They don't 'live' here, so I am guessing we'll have a physical advantage.

However, if they have mastered telekinesis and can float or fly around, we might have to give up some of our precious metals.
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I think the question of how to facilitate sporting contests between different species, from different planets and hence environments, is potentially an extremely broad and horribly complex one. Telekinesis, for a start, would almost certainly have to be regulated; but how do we detect infringements? It's bad enough in the 20km walk, and if you look over the history of the games you'll find that the shorter 10km walk was eventually abolished for this very reason - the advantage of 'lifting' is less critical in the longer events, and the slower pace makes detection somewhat easier, but it's still a difficult issue even to tell whether someone's broken the rules. Telekinetic aliens would make a similar mockery of the weight-lifting events, just for a start. Some kind of device to inhibit paranormal powers, like the psychic hoods used by librarians in Warhammer 40K, might be useful, but at present the technology to produce these devices is unknown.

(Either that, or they're omnipresent and always switched on. Frankly, there's really no way to tell.)

Atmospheric environment shouldn't be too much of a problem in some instances, and temperature is at least addressable, but the track events will suffer. OK, there may be a considerable cost associated with a refrigerated methane-ammonia atmosphere lane being added to the 100m sprint track, but at least in the straight line event we can put it in lane 9 or 10. Anything over that risks accusations of bias; either compartmenting off the inner lanes will force the aliens to run a tighter bend, or putting them on the outer lanes means they can't track their opponents till they enter the home straight. And the distance events will be a nightmare; what happens when the runners break lanes?

On the plus side, the penalties for infringing on a competitor's lane will constitute a very effective deterrent, not to mention being easier to enforce.

At least one sci-fi writer has suggested a handicapping system based on homeworld gravitational strength. This could lead to some rather confusing results. Imagine if Sergey Bubka's long-lasting pole vault record were finally broken, not by the Jovian competitor's 14 metre clearance (rather a disappointing result on the day), but by the Lunar record holder's magnificent metre and a half. I can just imagine Jim Rosenthal trying to explain that one.

Doping rules may be quite a knotty problem, since what we see as illegal performance-enhancing drugs may be vital metabolic agents for some extraterrestrial competitors. As for genetic modifications, I think it's worth a moment's consideration of what, exactly, the competitors are forbidden to be genetically modified from.

Dave
 
King of the Americas said:
So, lets pretend for a moment that all the anecdotes ARE accurate, that history IS a depiction of gods descending from the heavens, and that this is what people are seeing when they witness a U.F.O.
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No.

King of the Americas said:
You're new, so allow me to explain how wrong you are.

UFO's, are not 'necessarily' from another star...

From the beginning of our written history, 'they' appear in the skies. They could well be a form of advanced earthlings, ascended as it were. They don't have to be from anywhere distant, there are plenty of local hiding spots for them to hail from, our oceans perhaps.
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Wait, are we still pretending this is hypothetical, or can we just get right on with pointing out that your nonsensical claims are still just as nonsensical as they were every other time you made them?
 
Hokulele said:
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It is almost as if these alien gods of yours do not want to appear to humankind in an obvious and public manner ...



... or they don't exist.
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And there you have it, 'they' don't want to be seen ...yet.

We HAVE sent out efforts to make contact, well chronicled in Jon Stewart's book "Earth". (A great book, by the way.)

That you found ANY reports of UFO's in that search would indicate 'I' am correct. When 'they' expect us to be looking skyward, sometimes they show up.
 
King of the Americas said:
And there you have it, 'they' don't want to be seen ...yet

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That you found ANY reports of UFO's in that search would indicate 'I' am correct. When 'they' expect us to be looking skyward, sometimes they show up.
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These two sentences contradict each other.

1. They don't want to be seen yet.
2. Sometimes they show up.

So, the proof that they are hiding from us is that we see them? :boggled:
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Good gods, if that is true that means that people who claim to be abducted are the cross-section of the population that aliens will judge us by.
It's a wonder they haven't sterilized the world yet.

Of course they've now completely stopped abducting as they can just tap into the internet and study us without any need to contact us at all.

What I still don't get is why would they care about the olympics at all? And you do know they're held in London right? Even if they WANTED to show up, they'll just get stuck in traffic or get lost on the tube.
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I think it sounds more like they are studying, modifying, or interbreeding human genetic programs. The story of Yeshua IS that, is it not?

'Angels came unto Mary and she was unknown to man, and gave birth to the christ child'.

The Olympics are our biggest, broadest, most global event. The second being the Superbowl, but they always have that in a dome now. The Olympics are almost always outside, televised, and attended. The are a humanly unifying event...
 
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