Cont: The Russian Invasion of Ukraine part 9

[Wudang]

I am sure the people now in power knew damn well what they were doing.

Do you mean Trump or Putin wiht that last sentence.
If you mean Putin, you are badly mistaken, It takes time, not just money to modernize a military, and if they reallly wan a force that will deter Putin, they had better begin now.
One problem the Euros have is what amounts to a uninteniional Fifth Column with the Greens and other Pasicist groups who are opposed to ANY Miliary spending.

They started a while back. You might want to read about what Germany is doing with it's new military budget which is primarily being spent within the EU. I'm less familiar with EU Green parties but the UK GReens are pretty solidly behind supporting Ukraine.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

yep, it's mostly the Nazis across Europe that want to hand Ukraine over to Russia.
Wonder what their hero would say to that.

 

[icerat]

yep, it's mostly the Nazis across Europe that want to hand Ukraine over to Russia.
Wonder what their hero would say to that.

These days there hero is Putin.
Not least because he's funding them.

 

[Andy_Ross]

I don't see it .. without US it would be long and painful, just like Ukraine is right now ..

Bollocks

 

[Andy_Ross]

The only really significant problem is Logistics - getting all that stuff to the Front is going to take a long time.
But making Ukraine a no-fly zone for Russia could be achieved very quickly.

If Russia invaded it would already be at the front.

 

[theprestige]

And NATO has invested quite a bit over the years, in joint logistics solutions.

 

[Georg]

They started a while back. You might want to read about what Germany is doing with it's new military budget which is primarily being spent within the EU. I'm less familiar with EU Green parties but the UK GReens are pretty solidly behind supporting Ukraine.

So are the German Greens.
They want to increase the military spending/support for Ukraine.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

So are the German Greens.
They want to increase the military spending/support for Ukraine.

The Norwegian greens are all in, too.

 

[zooterkin]

Russia fires hypersonic Oreshnik missile at Ukraine in massive attack

Kyiv dismisses as ‘absurd’ Moscow’s attempt to portray missile launch as retaliation for supposed attempted drone strike on Putin residence

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

yep, it's mostly the Nazis across Europe that want to hand Ukraine over to Russia.
Wonder what their hero would say to that.

Nazis and Tankies. There are a few unreconstructed Stalinists out there at the margins of politics.